Review: GeForce RTX 3080 Founder edition

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  1. Spets

    Spets Ancient Guru

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    Yep, default custom curve on Afterburner didn't see the 3080 go over 65c. That's better temps than my XC Ultra. Would like to see the Strix and FTW3 reviews to see if I'll even bother with an AIB card.

    It's pretty insane that CPU's bottleneck this card when below 4k.
     
  2. EngEd

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    I think the results are good. Especially for me since I am upgrading from MSI gaming x 1080ti (sorry for you 2080ti users who feel cheated, recommend to keep your card longer or buy 3090 if you dont feel the difference.)

    RTX 3080 is a true 4K card which can manage 60fps at 4k on the todays and latest games, (minus MSFS2020, shitty unoptimized game from microsoft anyway)....

    So if you still play at 1440p, then it's probably not worth it. I play at 4K and where my 1080ti could not give sweet 60fps or higher, this card most definetly will. Especially after better drivers, improved DLSS for those DLSS games and added raytracing when needed.

    Memory wise: 11GB vs 10GB does not make any difference, not because the card can now access the SSD much faster for faster loading times etc...

    This is how I will do:

    - Wait for 3090 reviews to see if its worth the double price or not. If not then

    - Upgrade from 1080 Ti to rtx 3080 (All MSI due to torx fans are great IMO)
    - Undervolt the 3080 at maximum possible clock speeds while maintaining low voltage as possible to decrease the temp while keeping the OC'ed performance)
    - Add Custom fan curve
    - Play almost anything on 4K 60 fps.
    - Forget about AMD's RDNA2?
     
  3. wrathloki

    wrathloki Maha Guru

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    So the Best Buy website is completely broken due to PS5 pre-orders. Thanks Sony! That was really helpful putting preorders up on the same day as the 3080 launch. So looks like the Nvidia website is really going to get slammed tomorrow for FE cards.
     
  4. Netherwind

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    I don't think you can recommend buying the 3090 to anyone (unless they're simply rich). Everyone is talking about 20% increased performance in theory over the 3080 but it does cost 100% more so to me that's really simple math = not worth it :p (unless once again, someone has money laying around doing nothing)
     
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  5. Fox2232

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    Good 1440p card. Cooling is exceptionally good.
     
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  6. sbacchetta

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    Endless debate about power consumption is useless, we all have different PSU, we live in different climate, we may have a ACU or not...
    About the perf, at 4k it's a mighty card and f5 bashing is understandable, for 1440p I would wait for 3070 and rdna2

    Edit : or I would buy a used 2080ti for <500
     
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  7. barbacot

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    Wow...what can I say...if AMD couldn't kill rtx2080ti Nvidia did it itself...
    Now about availability because already there are some that sell these cards for more than 1200 USD I hope that Nvidia will make a lot of chips for partners and FE cards this time so that we can be near MSRP at least...
     
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  8. wrathloki

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    I think availability is going to depend on how good these cards are at mining. That’s why I’m going to try my damnedest to get one this morning.
     
  9. barbacot

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    I will fall for AMD waiting game this time and wait for "Big Navi" - if they are in 3080 performance field with the same price and more vram I will take the red train.The only thing that I don't like about 3080 is that it has less vram than 2080 ti - maybe the same or even a little more would have been better...on the other hand maybe nvidia left an empty spot for a 3080Ti but that will come into play based on how well Big Navi will perform I think...
     
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  10. Shinobi84

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    Guys, 3 months ago i had a refound for bad 2080ti wb card of 1500€. Actually ive the emergency card (1060 6gb) but ive a rog 1440p 165hz monitor...you suggest to take the 3080 tomorrow? or wait for 3090 or 3080ti?

    thanks
     
  11. brogadget

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    well done, thanks a lot for the review. I am looking for a GPU update for FS2020 like many other simmers as well. Very sad to see the new RTX30 series will have almost have no effect on FS2020 framerates (1080p) and after reading "How Much CPU Does the GeForce RTX 3080 Need?" at tom´s hardware, something becomes very clear:

    New nvidia cards do not calculate that much faster, BUT they can calculate a lot more at the same time... if you let them...

    Therefore, with a 1x 1200p setup in my case and FS2020 bound to DX11, even a 3090 will have almost no fps+ effect. I fear, also 24GB, will not help. Would be interesting to see FS2020 GPU load and temperatures in a multi display setup.

    So why buying a new 30 card when available computing power is not used by FS2020? For a DX12 update? In 2 years, I will get a RTX50 and fly in 8k. From a flight simmers point of view, right now, it makes only sense, if you have more displays connected, and I am not sure if RTX3080 supports multi GPU setups like the 2080Ti does via NVLink?

    On the other hand, for developers or creators, the new 30 cards make a lot of sense...render benchmarks, fantastic...A real time saver...can´t wait for a 3090 NVLink review.
     
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  12. barbacot

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    There is no official announcement about 3080Ti only rumors - maybe it will launch in Q1 2021 and maybe it will costs 999$...
    3090 will costs more than MSRP now at most online stores because of low availability in the first one or two months...
    You could try to buy a 3090FE directly from Nvidia or wait a month and see what AMD is bringing to the table...also 3090 is a little overkill for 2k monitors - this card shines at 4K.
     
  13. Undying

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    So the card should not be used for 1080 and 1440p due some big bottlenecks of the Ampere arch, card is stretching its legs at 4k but does not have enough vram. Who is this for?
     
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  14. Ryu5uzaku

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    This is interesting in a sense that it's an 102. So basically they brought back down the price of the top end silicon. While 3070 is again 104.

    So Ampere in terms of silicon and pricing is like Pascal. Not that bad tbh. I would really compare this to 2080ti because of this not 2080.
     
  15. emperorsfist

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    Since I still have a 60Hz, non VRR monitor, I'll wait and see how the 3070 is going to perform. I'll go 4k once it becomes a standart, like 1080p was when I bought my first 1080p monitor in 2009.
     
  16. itpro

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    This. Either bad nvidia hardware and great drivers, or great amd rdna2 with bad drivers. If only nvidia wasn't milking their cards. I cannot justify why should I buy anything except 3080ti or 3090 or biggest Navi at the moment. I feel underwhelmed by 3070/3080. Rtx 2080ti makes more sense if found at nice price and condition.
     
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  17. wrathloki

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    The problem with MSFS 2020 is the way it uses CPU. It maxes out one core and barely uses any of the others. It’s also an extremely CPU dependant game if you set the poor multi-core usage aside. That’s why the new cards have little effect on performance, there’s a narrower than normal CPU bottleneck. If Microsoft released an update that better optimizes for multi-core CPU usage I think you’ll see a bigger performance difference between GPU generations. Considering that this is a Microsoft game I wonder if we can expect early support for DirectStorage, that should also help quite a bit.
     
  18. Wow this card looks insane, it's exciting to see a GPU with such great stats. I am curious about something though. What does it mean when the FPS between 1920x1080 and 2560x1440 are almost the same, does that mean some kind of bottleneck or? I would have thought seeing the difference between resolutions the FPS variation would have been far greater...

    Red Dead Redemption 2
    1080P: 103FPS
    1440P: 102FPS

    Battlefield V
    1080P: 174FPS
    1440P: 171FPS

    Death Stranding
    1080P: 200FPS
    1440P: 193FPS

    Tomb Raider:
    1080P: 164FPS
    1440P: 150FPS

    Formula One
    1080P: 219FPS
    1440P: 220FPS
     
  19. theoneofgod

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    That means it's CPU bound.
     
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    Amazing 1440p future proof card! . Willl last 5 years max detail 1440p sure :D
     
  21. Mufflore

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    You've read the answer on many sites a hundred times by now.
    It is CPU limited at under 4K.
     

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