Again, no matter what you state, historical information will continue to state you are wrong. For instance the 780 and 780 ti are all the same chip, along with the titans. And it doesn't matter if they use the same exact chip, because they are in the same architecture, hence refresh, they weren't released with the original released cards, and instead released at a later date to either take over price points, move them around, or create new ones. They are refreshed cards. They are the same generation, same architecture, release in refreshed packages. If you ONLY want to consider Titan to Ti refreshes, which the 1080 ti is not a "refresh" to a "specific" card but rather a refresh with to bring life back into the 10 series GPUs and sales, AKA, REFRESH, but if you only want to consider a specific GPU die as being a refresh, which is just wrong, then the refreshes get even quicker. The way i stated it: GTX 1080 to 1080 ti = 9 months 11 days GTX 980 to 980 ti = 8 months 15 days. The way you apparently want to state it: GTX Titan X(P) to 1080 ti = 7 months 8 days GTX Titan X(M) to 980 ti = 2 months 16 days But this information doesn't really state anything about the REFRESH as it's only the restructure of an individual die. What you're describing is more like a reconfigured die rather then refreshed series. Something that happens quite frequently, as can be seen in such GPUs such as the 1060 3GB and 6GB, which not only have differences in the memory, but also amount of cores, all while using the same die. In fact you could say the GTX 10 series had at least 2 refreshes 2016 - Titan X, 1080, 1070, 1060, 1050 2017 refresh - Titan XP, 1080 ti, 1070 ti, 1060 5GB, 1030 2018 refresh - 1060 6GB GDDR5x, 1050 3GB, 1030 DDR4 Why? Because, again, the refresh of graphics cards are to create "new" graphics cards at different prices to create life, sales and new reviews. Refreshes aren't always that great, in the stance of the 1050 3GB and 1030 DDR4....as from the reviews i've seen they are quite a bit more horrible then the original SKUs. So again what YOU'RE talking about is when they have the same die and re-purposing it into a different GPU. But that's not a refresh, it COULD be what they use as a refresh, but it, by definition, isn't a refresh. By definition, if that's a refresh, then a 1060 3GB is a refresh of the 1060 6GB, they both have the same die, are a refresh of eachother? Even though 1 month was passed between the two and the 3GB was planned? That doesn't make any sense, there's no refresh there, just a reconfiguration of the same die. And lastly, but by far not least, again why are you deciding to create an argument for literally no reason? Nothing about what you stated originally or afterwards has stated anything about why this current refresh is, or isn't, quicker then before, historically. So just be on your way, and stop trying to cause arguments where there isn't one to be had.