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Review: GeForce GTX 1070 Ti Founder Edition

Discussion in 'Frontpage news' started by Hilbert Hagedoorn, Nov 2, 2017.

  1. Hilbert Hagedoorn

    Hilbert Hagedoorn Don Vito Corleone Staff Member

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    In this review we'll check out the all founders' edition from Nvidia, the GeForce GTX 1070 Ti FE. The new 1070 Ti is aimed at and against the Radeon Rx Vega 56 from AMD and obviously sits in-between...

    Review: GeForce GTX 1070 Ti Founder Edition
     
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  2. Noisiv

    Noisiv Ancient Guru

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    Great review. Really appreciate you keep hammering frametime graphs, keeping NV/AMD in check on that front.
    Good alternative to GTX 1080. I always felt that 1070 is slightly more under-powered than necessary.


    ps
    page 1: "1070 Ti series to canalize the 1080"
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    24" 25x14/16 monitor being a perfect fit... come one, at least 27''
     
  3. sverek

    sverek Ancient Guru

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    I didnt realise Vega56 performed that nicely.

    Vega56 will probably be as an option considering the fact this card gonna cost way more.
    Getting 1070 for lower price might be an alterntive option
     
  4. Emille

    Emille Master Guru

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    I don't get it...so people who could have bought a 1080 like 18 months ago...can now get a card that looks like it performs like 5-10% worse in every game, for slightly less money...

    The 1070 or 1080 are proportionally so close either side of the 1070ti that I really don't see the point.

    So people can now get a 1070 for like $30-50 less or something than the normal asking price of like $400 or whatever it goes for in $U.S, that's the price of a sale any day of the week.

    If it was one of those things where it performed 5% faster than the gtx 1080 for the same or less money as other generations refreshes have done, then it would be a great replacement for the 1080, but it is in between 2 cards that are both for the same performance range at 1080p and 1440p.
     

  5. Redemption80

    Redemption80 Ancient Guru

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    Vega56 has an RRP of $400 and this is $450 so I wouldn't say this costs way more, but I do think if this came in at $400 then it would make more sense.

    Another great review, but it's hard to be that excited when you can accurately guess the performance before you even read it.
     
  6. schmidtbag

    schmidtbag Ancient Guru

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    This reminds me of the i9-7890XE: the only reason it exists is to give AMD the finger. I really don't think Nvidia expects this to sell well, they just don't want the Vega56 being the leader of this performance tier. A 1070 or a 1080 are much more sensible products than this. And because of how new this is, it is going to be a real awkward situation where holiday sales come up and the 1080 becomes cheaper.


    From what I noticed, AMD hardware tends to overall get lower numbers than Nvidia (except for power consumption...), but, they scale up more gracefully as resolutions increase, and they take longer to become obsoleted. For example, the HD 7000 series has aged much better than most of the GTX 600 series or even the 700 series (with the 750Ti being the odd one out, which even by today's standards is still one of the best products in terms of performance-per-watt). But, the 600 and 700 series were overall better products at their release date.

    Or, spend an additional $0-50 and get a 1080.
     
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  7. SHS

    SHS Master Guru

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    You want look on newegg the price just drop down Vega 56 $399 and Vega 64 $499 cool but I'm going to hold for black friday sale
     
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    Redemption80 Ancient Guru

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    Yeah I know, I just rounded up $399.99 to $400.
     
  9. Agent-A01

    Agent-A01 Ancient Guru

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    Small typo

    A partially disabled GP104 GPU will have (GTX 1070 Ti):

    • 1,432 CUDA/Shader/Stream processors
     
  10. SHS

    SHS Master Guru

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    I was going wait but after short talk with somebody, I just went ahead and order a Vega 56 now being there very little over different from GTX 1070 Ti to bad Nvidia didn't keep it first MSRP of $430 and any case I going get one hell up grade from what I currently have now LoL I guest I have update my profile from HD 7870 to Vega 56
     
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  11. Fender178

    Fender178 Ancient Guru

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    Nice review Hilbert and I agree that the 1070 might actually be the better deal because its not that much slower than a Vega 56 when not OCed depending on the game that you are playing. Also Boss any new info with Overclocking a Vega 56? I'm curious to see on how well an Overclocked 1070 Ti compares to a OC'ed Vega 56 and 64 because it is very close to a Vega 64 in terms of performance and in some cases out performing it by a few FPS here and there depending on the game yet again.
     
  12. Loophole35

    Loophole35 Ancient Guru

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    Something about Kepler held it back later in it's life. 750ti is Maxwell so that is why it was not effected. Keep in mind Kepler is basically a Fermi die shrink. Fermi is not doing well now either. How well is TreaScale doing right now?
     
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  13. SHS

    SHS Master Guru

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    Not really here in USA the price did drop to today on GTX 1070 and are now at same cost but that was ZOTAC ITX size card
     
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    Fender178 Ancient Guru

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    Yeah You are correct after looking at prices on Newegg. The cheapest 2 cards that I found is the Zotac Mini like you said @ $404 bucks and the MSI armored edition at $400. The rest are around $440-450.
     
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    +1 for every aspect.
     

  16. CrazY_Milojko

    CrazY_Milojko Ancient Guru

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    Thanks HH for these 1070Ti reviews!

    Performance wise 1070Ti is well positioned card with Vega 56 on it's aim, but can't say the same for the 1070Ti price tag. If I had need to spend that kind of money on some NVidia card atm I'll just add few more bucks and buy 1080.

    One more thing I don't like about 1070Ti: it seems to me that so far all 1070Ti's are using Micron memory chips = not that great memory OC capabilities and for sure that limits OC potential of these cards, memory OC ends below/around 9000. With Samsung or even Hynix chips @ max OC both 1070Ti and 1080 would be maybe 2 to 3 % close.
     
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  17. Agent-A01

    Agent-A01 Ancient Guru

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    Do you mean 1080 not Ti?

    Ti is 40% faster than the 1080
     
  18. Arbie

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    Thanks for the excellent review, and for including the Ashes benchmark.

    Being able to compare cooling performance of the reference blower to that of the partner card fans was really interesting to me. I keep thinking that a blower might be best, in order to exhaust hot air from the case - but I never realized how inferior that method is, with a GPU load temp 13 degC (!!) higher AND 7 dBA more noise !! Wow. Either of these metrics alone would be bad, but together they simply rule it out. Of course the internal fan method relies on very good case cooling (no water for me) which will increase noise, but at least the GPU temps will remain sane.
     
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    Nothing to do with how the 1070ti stacks up against other Nvidia cards. Vega 56 is the only reason this card exists.
     
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    Nicely done Hilbert, but if I had a choice going forward from a 1070, I would get the 1080 Ti without a doubt.
     

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