Review: Crucial T700 PCIe 5.0 NVMe 2TB SSD going for 12GB/s

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  1. Hilbert Hagedoorn

    Hilbert Hagedoorn Don Vito Corleone Staff Member

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  2. Undying

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    As soon it drops to 100-120$ for 1tb im going to replace it as my main drive. Little worried about those temperatures tho but passive heatsink seems to do just fine.
     
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    Wowza they are expensive, right now a 2TB Gen4 Corsair for £100 or a 4TB Gen4 Corsair for £220 seem cheap as chips in comparison.
     
  4. Timur Born

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    Now we only need PCIe 5 graphic-cards to be able to make better use of PCIe 5 lanes. Currently I would have to run my v3 16x GPU at v3 8x to use a v5 M.2 and if I bought a new GPU then it would turn its v4 16x into v4 8x (=v3 16x).

    A v5 x8 M.2 would then move its data over to the GPU via v4 x8 lanes, aka half-speed. Not ideal for what DirectStorage promises. As long as v5 M.2 drives only use x4 lanes it likely doesn't make so much of a difference, unless the data to be transferred to the GPU is already in even faster main memory.
     

  5. TLD LARS

    TLD LARS Master Guru

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    Impressive temperatures with that small heatsink, all the doom prophesies looks to be very exaggerated.
     
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    dragonlord Master Guru

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    Those were complete idjits testing without any heatsinks at all, passive or active. :p
     
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    Nice review @Hilbert Hagedoorn , as always well done Boss. Fast little drive :) , as long as it is well cooled with a good heatsink and some airflow it wont overheat.

    Tech is moving so fast this days , by next year we will have 15Gb/s nvmes.
     
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    Han2K Master Guru

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    Crappy numbers. As usual it only delivers in sequential R/W with a QD of 8 streams.. For the rest it gets behind 980 Pro, KC3000, SN850X, Hynix P41 and so on.. 2TB for a TBW of 1200 is rather low. I replicated all becnchmarks withc a KC300 2TB, all af them crushes totally this Crucial overpriced nvme. Just need to try with HD Tune Pro although according to Anvil IOPS (specially in the write bench) is gues what's going to happen. Sustained write should go far beyond the 25% threshold with an SNX850, 990 Pro and KC3000.

    To sum, up, it doen't even get close to PCIE 5.0 real maximum bandwith, Thay would be a concern if you would going to use it for masive storage and only large packed files (iso, tar, any compression format, video, music and so on). If you need 12-15GB/s on a SSD drive for who know what reason, then it's ok. But the everyday use of a drive for gamers, regular users, creators, IT admins, developers, intensive managment of DDBB. (this includes DNS, WAN routing and other services TCP/UDP services, basically everything would be bottlenecked by slow IO performance if Synthetic Sequential benches would be what determines what menans 'fastest'.

    PS. Checked prince, 226 usd retail for 1 TB, hahahahaha,,
     
  9. Han2K

    Han2K Master Guru

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    Just put 4 NVme PCIE 4 in RAID 0 for a total of 28 GB/s (not Gb/s).
     
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    Been there done that ;) ...
    GB/s ( not Gb/s ) sorry but you knew what i meant it's only a letter , but what do i know i only have broken pcmark 10 world records ,PCMark 05 , PCMark Vantage and as ssd disk benchmarks 3 times on hwbot making it to front page news on websites and magazines :p.

    https://hwbot.org/submission/4752630_chispy_as_ssd2.0_nvme_16875_marks
    https://hwbot.org/submission/4854184_chispy_pcmark10_express_core_i7_12700k_(8p)_10301_marks
    https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/amd-phenom-ii-overclocked-to-6-5ghz-with-liquid-helium-220c.html
    https://issuu.com/theoverclocker/docs/theoverclocker_issue_23?viewMode=doublePage
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    Back on the topic of this extremely fast nvme , Phison E26 controller can do max of 14MBps , later next year fast new controllers and flash memory will be available.
     
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    The controller is already close to the 4 lane gen 5 limit, not much speed to gain other then faster random and out of memory drive speeds, but it does not look like that is of high focus or possible cheaply.
     
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    Since current Intel board need to split the 16x Gen 5 PCIe into 2x 8x, 4 lanes become unused. What a shame.
     
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    Any improvements in day to day use? Kind of thinking of putting 2 SDD's in RAID0 as well (not really interested in the max speeds but more in an improvement in the random 4K, etc speeds if it has any impact).
     
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    Much like buying the 1.2TB Intel 750 Nvme drive for AU$1200. Seems a bit silly now, when I just bought 2 x WD Black 1TB M.2 for AU$120 each.
     

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    Yes indeed Raid0 offers many improvements but it is risky ,as it is very prone to corrupt your OS and loose your data.
     
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    This made me laugh so much . We need a sticky thread for greatest personal achievments.
     
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    Yeah Chispy is not one to be trifled with when it comes to taking HW to its limits. I recall back in the day when we were OC'ing our e8400s and worrying that anything above 1.4v may cause degradation. And along came Chispy with a 1.8v OC on LN2 :eek:.

    @chispy , you still live near that LN2 factory? :D
     
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    Good old times my long time friend :) . Indeed i'm still living in the same place next door to the liquid nitrogen place. I do not do LN2 extreme overclocking anymore , i have retired from the hobbie since 2 years ago.
     
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  20. hamltnblue

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    I picked up a 2TB version and installed it in the MSI X670-P, which has a decent NVME 5 heatsink with top/bottom coverage. Temps definitely run hot during benchmarks, hitting 80c. Increasing air flow brings it down a few degrees.
    As far as speed, I'm moving from a 980 pro which was already fast. Copying files of course will be limited to the slowest side and won't get anywhere near the limit.
    In photo and video editing, the loading is a bit snappier working with larger files (if they are on the same drive).
    If you are running a fast 4.0 drive, I would wait until cooling gets a little better, and direct storage becomes more mainstream.
     
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