Review: Core i5 7600K processor : Desktop Kaby Lake for the masses

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  1. Amx85

    Amx85 Master Guru

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    Krappy lake xD

    Im seeing higher multithreaded Performance per Watt on Zen AMD similar monothreaded Performance per clock
     
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    Does this mean that Intel knows the reception of Kaby Lake is going to be so tepid/cool that they aren't even bothering with marketing their "new" product?

    As to my opinion of the i5 7600K (or i7 7700K).... well, Yuck is the nicest thing I can say about it. :3eyes:

    ps good review as always btw!
     
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    As disappointed I am in KL as a whole, the 7600k seems more impressive to me than the 7700k, esp in light of the expected price difference. It holds its own in many of the multi-threaded benches as some earlier i7s. I could easily recommend this to friends.
     
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    Great Review as Always!

    Not bad CPU's, but still i have no need to upgrade my PC, I no longer do any video coding. I do a minor amount of CAD work and mainly play games now.

    So no need to upgrade till PC dies. Fingers crossed that doesnt happy soon.
     

  5. PrMinisterGR

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    It's like they're really checking out somehow. How is it possible they don't have anyone on the Netherlands, wtf.

    These CPUs are expensive, no matter what everyone might say. 4c/4t is too few these days, even for gaming. Latencies get killed.
     
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    Hahaha, genius!
     
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    Let's not even mention that all the refreshes from OEMs will be Kaby, so it will really be primarily be sold to them.
     
  8. Zeka

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    Intel is not marketing new processors because they are aware it's nothing special. They are waiting for AMD to reveal their cards.
    Even if AMD has an amazing product (which could be the case finally), Intel is a giant, with a huge fanbase who will buy their hardware no matter what comes out from AMD. All they need to do is discount their parts and they are good to go.

    Also, I bet Intel has several things in their R&D department just waiting for the right moment. Why would they release any massive advancements in computing if they are not making a huge profit on it?

    Having said that, my next build will be based on Ryzen if it delivers on benchmarks. I had several AMD builds in the past, and I was always happy with the price/performance ratio.
     
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    If I overclock my Skylake, it will magically turn into Kaby Lake, by the looks of it. I mean, unless I desperately want to buy an amazing 16GB Optane loldrive.
     
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    Not so. In 2005 almost everyone here was on Athlon 64/x2. People go for performance when it comes to CPUs, not brand. What changed? Intel began designing better performing chips (from Conroe onwards, 2006-). If Zen is a killer, expect a big shift once again.
     

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    I think the difference is that Conroe offered a significant performance increase in real world scenarios over the AMD equivalent at the time.

    http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/review-core-2-duo-e6600-e6700-x6800,7.html

    That's a pretty massive impact, especially considering 1600x1200 in 2006 was basically equivalent to 1080p now. 20% performance at a modern resolution from a single CPU generation is unheard of and it was like that across multiple AAA titles. Zen isn't going to have nearly as much impact as that in terms of performance. I don't expect we'll see the mass exodus that occurred when Core 2 was released, it's going to take much longer and AMD needs to be in it for the long run. The pricing will definitely drive some people though plus I think in general everyone is getting tired of Intel and their nonsense.
     
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    We (meaning enthusiasts) are the minority. Most people I encounter have never heard of AMD. I have known people with an AMD sticker on their laptop and they still never heard of the company. If our community's decisions applied to everyone, AMD would have been able to handily afford to defeat Core2 as well, but they didn't.

    That's not to say people know exactly what Intel does, but most people know and trust the brand regardless of how good or bad a product may be. Kind of like Ford or Honda.

    Bulldozer will have permanently put AMD behind. Unless Intel does something exceptionally stupid, they will always outsell AMD.
     
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    Yes, agree. No ones expecting a conroe type performance leap with Zen. So no big shift to AMD would be expected. But if Zen is just a little better, I'll bet that may be just enough to initiate a decent size move from long term Intel users to AMD. I certainly may, even if it was equal performance, as a protest move away from Intel for the crap they've pulled with KL.
     
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    Agree there.

    Not sure about that. Intel was always the 900lb gorilla and could devote tremendous resources to come up with counter moves to whatever AMD comes up with. It would be an exhausting thing for AMD to keep up or be ahead consistently.

    IMO Intel have indeed done something stupid, its called KL. In the bigger scheme of things it may not amount to much, but on the enthusiast playground I'll bet many are just ready to slap them in the face and go AMD.
     

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