Review: Borderlands 3: PC graphics performance benchmark analysis

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  1. Reardan

    Reardan Master Guru

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    You absolutely SHOULD be running every game with x16 AF. It's probably one of the biggest things you can do for image quality and the performance is almost free.
     
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    vbetts Don Vincenzo Staff Member

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    I'm not saying directly don't, I'm using that as an example considering at least for me, 1440p and 4k it's hard to tell a difference from x4 AF to x16 AF. It's called tweaking. It's a factor you can change at any time to increase performance.
     
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    By the way, on ultrawide (21:9 and wider) if your cutscenes are completely broken, with parts of the image rendering behind the black bars - disable FidelityFX sharpening.
     
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    I can tell, but it varies from game to game. Either way, AFx16 has such minimal performance impact that I always leave it on in global settings.
     

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    I disagree. In a lot of cases, it just makes the image look blurry, while having such an immense loss on performance. I'd rather opt for a higher resolution and other graphical details.
     
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    Denial Ancient Guru

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    We are talking about antistropic filtering right?

    I don't remember the last time I ran a game where AF impacted performance
     
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    Yup. It seems many people are hung up over the art style and think the game should run much faster because of it. I also see many of the same complaints that people had with Metro Exodus - if the game can't be run at ultra at the highest resolution on a 2080 Ti then it is "unoptimized". In the old days, getting 45 FPS on a new game was considered acceptable while today if a game dips below 60 then it's considered unplayable - I think we're spoiled :p.

    Eh? Anisotropic filtering makes images look sharper at a distance and is virtually free.
     
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  9. Reardan

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    Do you people even play video games? I swear to God I come to this forum and it's like I'm in some alternate mirror dimension where people who played video games 20 years ago still sit around and talk about them like they're authoritative. AF makes games objectively LESS blurry, not more.

    https://international.download.nvid...e-anisotropic-filtering-performance-chart.png

    ?????

    https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/104c2e80898e85bd968335dc9b08e54c-650-80.jpg

    ?????
     
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    Anisotropic filtering can degrade performance, and sometimes image quality, only if forced via the graphics driver control panel, because sometimes it could be wrongly applied to texture resources used for intermediate rendering, such intermediate render targets used in render-to-texture -like techniques.
     

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    This is ostensibly a tech site so you will find a lot more discussions on the tech side of everything rather than actually playing games, although that is on the list, but don't take it to heart. Lol
     
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    Not sure where you get that, but certainly not on Nvidia cards. I recall this argument coming up over a decade ago and did 3dmark tests with AFx16 on and off, and the difference was not more than 1-2%. I doubt you will find any link or source demonstrating "an immense loss on performance" with AFx16.

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    Jesus guys I was just using an example. Morale of the story is, we aren't going to run or try to run every game at max settings.

    Also @Reardan there's no need to be an ass. Keep it civil or say nothing at all.

    AF really doesn't affect our cards today like they did before. Tons of memory bandwidth is available on pretty much every flagship device.
     
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    my 1070ti looks to be eh in this game most interesting
     
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    I'm pretty sure that once it gets cracked (if ever) we'll start seeing if the current DRM has a major impact.

    Hopefully they will release future GoG version and maybe even performance patch improvements.

    I actually like the series but i just wish a GotY or ultimate version was available because it's gonna get a ton of DLC i bet.
     

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    game is very good graphic wise, performance tho - i blame unreal engine
    It could run much worse on this engine look at ATLAS and game that runs smooth is Fortnite but doesn't compete
     

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    wtf? the one thing AF cannot do is cause things to look blurry.

    it makes one game look muddy because of what alessio mentioned above but thats a flaw in the implementation of the game.
     
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    Well I personally believe it's strange to release a game with in game settings no card on the planet can run at 4K@60fps (which could be considered as the "ceiling" in term of resolution, and the 60fps is a standard, after all we're not playing console games). But it has been like this for a long time now. Will there ever be a 4K@60fps capable card?
     
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    Well, us old-timers can remember a time when a high-end GPU could only do 40 FPS in the latest games. Things like this used to be a lot more common in the past (before consoles led to a watering down of games). As with Metro Exodus, I'd prefer that games push the technology envelope and spur the development of more powerful gaming hardware - if all AAA games could do a perfect 4K/60 then there would be no reason to develop more powerful GPUs.
     
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    60fps used to be the ceiling though, now we have 240Hz monitors, so PC users have less tolerance for sub 60fps performance. Personally I'd have to be achieving at least 60fps minimum framerate in non-competetive "slow paced" games with more like 120fps+ for fast paced games and 180fps for competetive fps gaming, I turn down specific graphics settings to meet these targets whilst trying to maintain best visual quality. So, yes, I think the PC community doesn't haven't any tolerance anymore for sub 60fps gaming in most spheres. I don't have any problem with modern games tanking fps down to sub 60fps for 1080p for the highest graphics settings - as long as it's not poorly coded and is actually delivering something that is pushing the boundaries visually, and as long as running lower graphics settings to meet my targets doesn't make it look like complete arse, if it did then it's time for a GPU upgrade!
     
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    This only applies to those who cannot find satisfactory settings vs ultra everything. You can always find settings that make little visual difference but have big performance impacts. I have not encountered a game that I have not been able to run satisfactorily @4k on a 2080 (other than Ark Survival). I've done Metro Exodus, SOTR, GR Wildlands, AC Origins on 4k and will likely do so with BL3 when all the issues sorted out or when released on Steam.
     

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