Review average of 17 websites shows 6800 XT to be 7.4% Slower than GeForce RTX 3080

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  1. metagamer

    metagamer Ancient Guru

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    Question. Are you talking 4k resolution in a years time or so? If so...

    Do you think a 3080 would be capable of pushing over 60fps in 4k at max settings even if it had 32GB VRAM?

    My guess is no chance.
     
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    I did not say that, but now that you mention it the only way the 3080 will be irrelevant is when those 10GB Vram won't be enough for 4k... I think that will be soon too.
    Also, running games at 4k Ultra now, does not mean it will 2 years from now, when they will be even more demanding, Ultra preset. Unless you downgrade the eye candy or lower the resolution, 4k will not be sustainable for many years without a short upgrade cycle (2 years max).
     
  3. Mufflore

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    Depends on the game.
    GSync/VRR are commonplace on DP and some HDMI displays, sub 60fps has a place too.
     
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    For textures to be lowered only becouse you dont have enough vram gotta hurt especially knowing it does not effect the performance.

    2080 and 3070 have enough gpu power to run Doom Eternal at 4k but not enough vram, the coin have two sides.
     
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    Isn't the whole trend right now about swapping and better communication from storage to GPU etc anyway? Its seems to me, although I am amateur at best, that the whole idea of having a bunch of assets just sitting in VRAM is slow and dated. 10gb seems like plenty for swapping things out in such a way that the industry is seemingly headed no?
     
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    1440p UW looks very close to 16:9 4k anyways.
    Resolution is not the only defining thing here.
    16:9 sucks, vast majority of games on are on 144 1080p/ 144 1440p, and more people have 1440p 100+ UW then 4k 60 clowns.
    But its not my problem you are clueless as to why I would rather game on a 35 inch curved 1440p UW 100hz then a boring asf 16:9 curved 60hz trash.
    And Im not even a high hz snob either.
     
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  7. metagamer

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    Depends on the game, so basically 10GB VRAM will be more than enough. Depending on the game. Still, you will run out of raw power before you run out of VRAM. It's been like this for ages.

    Sorry, I don't see how sub 60fps has a place too. Even with GSYNC, just no. At least for me, personally.
     
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    Its not all about you though.
     
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    Anyone seen any tests using quiet mode or undervoting the 6800 XT? Really curious how much power draw can be reduced with little FPS loss. I have a feeling those of us that want quiet we could overpay for a 6800 XT and tweak it just a hair and get great results. However would like to see it tested out.
     
  10. kcthebrewer

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    I'm sure the 6900XT will be impressive but it can't magically perform more than what the architecture and bandwidth allow.

    The very BEST the 6900XT can perform is 11% better than the 6800XT. Going by the 7.4% collaborative advantage the 3080 has, it likely means the 6900XT will be the fastest card at 1080p and 1440p and match or be slightly faster than the 3080 on average at 4K.
     

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    Wonder how performance will be affected in the future as drivers has "matured", if amd continue "fine vine" patch. Maybe im wrong, tho thats my impression. I will not be surprised if ray tracing will get better, even considering this is amd's "turing" considering ray tracing and DLSS tech. I hope software updates will improve performance in the future. Tho, nvidia is one gen ahead when it comes to ray tracing and AI related tech.
    If i would buy new GPU, i wonder how a 3 party water cooled navi would performe. Will they release for example xtx- ver. cards?
    Is there any info out how flagship navi performance?
     
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    Hmmm -7,5% slower for less 200 Euro in price... it is still a good point for me.
     
  13. rl66

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    No it's just a refresh, or an update... but in none way a gen ahead.
    We are just on the 1st step of this kind of RT in game, right now ALL brand of GPU can't handle 4K RT in good condition.
    For now there is the hype, and everyone implement it even if it bring nothing realy exeptional to their game.
    The next gen will be when GPU will be able to handle it in a good way.
    It's a bit like when the 1st 3D card appear on PC compared to regular VGA GPU. it take time but at the end we will have something good (green, red or blue).
     
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    1440 is more an "Exotic" as in the middle, and as 4k monitor went down drasticaly in price.
    it's more, at least from my point:
    2 - The Ascended: 3440x1440/144
    3 - The Madman: over 4K (6K, 8K etc)
     
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    In times when consoles try to compete in 120Hz/fps space, PC turns to sub 60fps.

    There was time, when this would be just a bad joke. I remember intel once saying that 30fps is good and standard. Or something like that. They took a lot of flak for it.
    Not anymore.

    I kind of wonder why people who were looking down on AMD's CPUs for having lower achievable fps than intel's are advocating sub 60fps gaming now. Especially since Zen1 was already capable to deliver way higher fps and was not limiting factor in such scenarios.
     

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    yeah , 30FPS is cinematic LOL
     
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    You're forgetting that 11% better than 6800xt is at stock. Like the 6800xt, the 6900xt is expected to OC like a champ at over 2.6GHz and that is another ~10% performance over the already 11% one... That plus the optimized games for AMD and you can see it beat the 3090 even at 4k... as for 1080p/1440p if will be no contest really.

    6000 series have a much bigger OC headroom and performance gain than nvidia 3000s.
     
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    Read this and weep bro... https://www.techpowerup.com/review/msi-geforce-rtx-3080-suprim-x/28.html The 3080 when averaged for each resolution: 1080p, 1440p and 2160p is faster then the 6800XT. The proof is right there in TechPowerUp's graph... Tissues?
     
  20. metagamer

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    No, it's not. But I also don't see many people buying a 3080 to play at sub 60fps. Someone will surely correct me if I'm wrong.
     
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