Review average of 17 websites shows 6800 XT to be 7.4% Slower than GeForce RTX 3080

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  1. EspHack

    EspHack Ancient Guru

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    yeah RTX cards do faster 4k but how's half the vram going to work out in a year or two? I'm almost certain even the 6800 will outpace them when newer games show up asking for more vram, doom eternal is already doing it

    were it not for the huge vram asterisk, the 3070-3080 would be a simple buy, nvidia loves doing this
     
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  2. Dragam1337

    Dragam1337 Ancient Guru

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    True, 4k users are more likely to buy a 3090.
     
  3. karma777police

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    It is up to 100% with ray tracing enabled. RX6000 has no value knowing ray tracing sucks on it.
     
  4. Michal Turlik 21

    Michal Turlik 21 Active Member

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    Do these tests show the poor DXR performance as well?
    I have the impression that my oc 2080ti will be good enough for the next three years.
     

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    They kind of pit DX-R performance of RDNA2 at native resolution against Turing which used DLSS as it actually renders at lower than native resolution.
    So, you would have to go through particular tests and see where sites used DLSS and where they had sense and compared actual brute force.
    For me, neither DLSS nor AMD's upscaling is way to go.
     
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    I look forward to buying either an nv or amd card when they go on sale to the general public in 7/2021. Can't wait to buy one then.
     
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    And most of those games are prolly nvidia titles too. Im not talking about gameworks an that fuzz. Just that alot of games are not omptimized for AMD gpus as much as Nvidia to do market share, fanboyism, and developer moronic issues.

    As someone who is a 1440p UW user, 4k is useless and trash anyways. 3440x1440>3840x2160 any day.
     
  8. Dragam1337

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    So the lower resolution is superior... great logics...
     
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  9. Fox2232

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    They are as they can run more fluidly. People can have 144Hz+ 1440p screens and get appropriate frame rate.
    At 4K, not so much. But I guess, you have 144Hz 4K screen and all games run 100fps+ on your 3090, right?

    Well, no. Better luck next time. But before you try next time, maybe look at history of so called 4K graphics cards. Their ability to deliver and their longevity.
    4K is a dream which costs much, much more than 1440p reality.
     
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    Yeah, and having just one boob to deal with is better as well, you only need to use one hand lmao. Yeah right.
     
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  11. EspHack

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    I feel like people are jumping the gun on RT perf, why not wait for more games? sure nvidia had a head start but look at dirt5, something tells me most games coming off the xbox/microsoft will perform closer to that

    sure codemasters had AMD watching over their shoulder, but its not like they completely disregarded nvidia's RT, no dev in their right mind would do that(discard 90% of users)

    if anything this is a huge opportunity for AMD, nvidia has the vast majority of the GPU market, but the RT capable GPU market is just getting started, if they manage to get a nice chunk of it, devs will have to optimize for it just as much, unlike what happens with their current 15% marketshare on normal GPUs that hardly any dev cares about
     
  12. Dragam1337

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    Depends what your priority is. If your priority is fluidity, then a 1080p 360 hz screen is the best.
    However, if your priority is image quality, then 4k is the way to go - and it just so happens that is the case for me.

    No, i have possibly the best 60 hz screen made - xb321hk. I run it with g-sync and a framecap at 58 fps - runs super smooth, and gives me superb image quality.

    My 3090 delivers excellently, as did my 2080 ti.
    4k only costs too much if you cant afford it.
     
  13. tunejunky

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    excellent points. indeed i think that the bandwidth issue maybe perfect for the refresh, which may also be sooner than anyone thinks. Apple is really working out the 5nm bugs with the M1 @ TSMC
     
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    lmao, for sure people buy these cards to play at 1080p

    here's another untrusted review for you. at 1440p 6800xt surpasses 3080 in 7 out of 23 games tested, with RT on it's at 3070 level and below
    https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-radeon-rx-6800-xt/7.html
     
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    RX 6800 (non XT) for 1080p 144-165HZ Ultra gaming for more than 1 or 2 years why not? What if I buy that card to game at that resolution for 4-5 years? Hm?

    So many people are narrow minded and only think about the now or next 6 months, these are the suckers that like to pay any price and upgrade every 1 or 2 years.

    I rather buy a high end GPU that is overkill now to last me 4-5 years than do what those fools do...

    ............

    Also, about the RT and DLSS performance or lack of it, again people are so narrow minded and cant think or see past a few months ahead... what will they say when in 3-6 months time AMD comes with their DLSS alternative (and thus improve the RT performance too) which even if it will be 70-80% as good as nvidia's it will only make these cards even better and more value for money - so yeah the fine wine will come sooner than later. That plus those 16GB Vram and I can't fault AMD at all, except for the low stock.

    Imagine regretting in half a year the fact that you (as in anyone) did not think ahead or had any kind of patience to wait a little more... What's a few months time in a life span of a GPU of 2-4-5 years?

    AMD is making 2 consoles and fighting Intel and nvidia at the same time, so basically 3 things at the same time and doing them good enough or excellent depending on which one you name, but do people care? Do they think it's easy? Meh.
     

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    The AMD card also offers insane overclocks over the non existent Ampere OC capabilities, which about evens the field.
    Ref 6800XT cards hit 2600+MHz clocks while Ampere had no headroom basically
     
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    Pretty much the only 3 websites/channels i check too. Personally i have a 3k monitor now but nobody put that resolution in reviews ;)
     
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    No, the DXR tests are done with DLSS off to keep things fair.
     
  19. StevieSleep

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    4k may be irrelevant to you because you don't have a 4k monitor, but I do and for me all the other resolutions are irrelevant.
    And frankly if you're searching for 1440p performance then looking any higher than the 6800 or the RTX3070 is a waste of money.
    So please don't make broad generalizations that so far seem to apply only to you.
     
  20. Mufflore

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    The performance difference is unfortunate, this put the 6800XT out of the running for me, not that you can get one anyway.
    But the lack of availability put the 3080 out also.
    So I bought a 3090 today (without even going hunting, they are just in stock in lots of places) and feel so glad I dont have to worry about anything for 4 years.
    Phew :)
     

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