I've watched reviews all day and my conclusion is the same as yours. The 9700K is, simply by higher boost clocks out of the box (~4700MHz), the best CPU for gaming. If the 3800X would have the same boost clocks it would be better than the 9700K just as well as the 3900X would beat the 9900K at the same clock speeds. But since the 3700X and 3900X don't manage anything above 4200MHz with PBO, that's where it falls short. And like you mention - if one only wants to game, then clock speeds matter. I'm personally torn between the 9700K and the 3800X but I'm quite willing to give the 3800X a chance just by hoping that it will surpass both 3700X and 3900X in gaming applications and hopefully better boost clocks. OCing these guys proved not to help at all and just makes the CPU hot as hell. Regarding X570 boards that little fan (that nobody is talking about) is the tipping point. One Guru did scan the web for videos here and there and there was one where you could constantly hear the fan, super annoying. From what I've gathered the 3000-series OC just as well on a X470 mobo than a X570 mobo.