That doesn't change my point... "clocked similarly" doesn't imply highest common denominator must be achieved. That aside: http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/amd-ryzen-processors-reach-5-ghz-on-air.html Granted, that was theorized rather than offical. RAM is hardly keeping up to what it should be, so until that's fixed, I don't think there'll be too much overclocking headroom, for now. Yes, some were like that, most weren't. Far Cry Primal, The Division, Deus Ex, and Dishonored 2 didn't seem to be GPU limited and Ryzen's performance was adequate. Still should've been better, but wasn't bad by any means considering the room for patches.