Review: AMD Ryzen 7 1700X processor

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  1. H83

    H83 Ancient Guru

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    I really don´t like vague stuff like "feels/looks smoother"... Not only is completly subjective it also smells of BS...

    For example in my case i have no problems with playing games at lower settings with some frame dips because it´s good enough for me and because i never buy high end hardware but for others playing like this is a garbage experience...

    Also this reminds me a review of the Iphone7 where the author was explaining that the increased cpu performance in theory was unnecessary but in reality it made the phone much smoother. No problem with this if it wasn´t the fact that in the previous reviews of the Iphones the same guy said that what made the Iphone special was that it was super smooth!... Apparently there are different levels of smoothness...

    P.S. i already asked this but where are the Ryzen motherboard´s reviews???
     
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  2. Præses

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    Generally people expected competition for Intel and that's what they got - Intel already had to drop prices and I bet their R&D department is working overtime! :vader:
     
  3. Noisiv

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    I prefer numbers and measurements. Lets keep people's feelings in audio products reviews.

    It's enough having to deal with one snake-oil selling industry.
     
  4. Clouseau

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    We all know they were rushed out without a stable and polished bios. Waiting is a pain.

    @Noisiv: Need to start visiting better audio gear establishments. The mass market stores survive on nothing but snake oil. The better establishments will setup a room with the equipment of one's choice and leave them to critically listen to music brought in by the customer. Other words, if your ears do not hear an improvement then one keeps auditioning equipment till happy. Need to keep in mind audio quality is 100% subjective. Everyone's listening habits are different. One hears what they hear.

    Back on topic a bit: As far as stuttering, is that not why gsync and freesync came about? So does not that tech attempt to mitigate the effects of frame time analysis? Where's the magic point where gsync/freesync cannot compensate?
     

  5. MonstroMart

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    That was to be expected though. Honestly CPUs for the most part are not worth upgrading for games anymore unless they are very old at which point you want to upgrade the mb even more than the cpu. And it will remain this way for a while as games those days are made with multiplatform in mind and the Xbox one and ps4 both have extremely weak cpus.

    I'm still rocking my overclocked core i5 750 (with a 970). Yup it's not a joke. That cpu is almost 10 years old. Still doing a relatively good job at 1080p. In fact it was still perfectly fine before the xbox one and ps4 got released and games started to exploit more power. You could run those multiplatform xbox 360 and ps3 games with very weak cpu no problem.

    Now that 750 is starting to show its age more and more. The mb even more than the cpu as it's sata 2, usb 2 and pcie 2 only. I'll upgrade it later this year. I'll look into Ryzen for sure. But if i had a more recent cpu and a mb with usb 3, stat 3 and pcie 3 i would certainly not upgrade now even if the Ryzen would be better than a 7700 for gaming. There would just be no point in upgrading.

    I'll look closely at Ryzen and how it "matures" this summer before upgrading next fall. I'm building this new pc for many years so multithread, vr and higher resolution performance is important. Considering how weak the ps4 and xbox one are i believe any current cpu will do the job with gpu upgrades for a long while so as a developer workstation performances is not something i overlook too.

    When i bought my core i5 750 to replace my Opteron 180 i did not even look at what AMD had to offer. This time i'll definitely take a look. I might end up buying a core i7 but Ryzen looks interesting enough to take a look at it before taking a decision.
     
  6. Denial

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    Probably can't even find a board to review.. I'm most likely returning my 1800x but even if I wanted to keep it, the MSI board I pre-ordered for it still hasn't shipped out of Amazon yet. So the thing has been sitting in a box on my desk for nearly a week now. I check newegg/microcenter/few other retailers in the US frequently and aside from a few ASRock boards going in/out of stock, everything else is basically just empty.

    Microcenter has like two dozen of each SKU of Ryzen in stock, but no boards.

    I feel like the motherboard partners in general are dropping the ball on this. Shortages + all the bios issues (the asus hero boards bricking). I wonder how much of it is them just not expecting the demand/not focused on the product vs AMD just giving them samples late and not having enough time to work out the issues. Even with the latter, I'd rather them just not release the board then ship broken garbage like they have been.
     
  7. Ryu5uzaku

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    Yeah I all my stuff is just waiting at the retailer which makes everything better for me. I got all the time to wait anyways. 13.3 it says motherboard should be there. Most likely it won't be. But oh well.. Been thinking I don't want the asus board because wth asus. But changing now would mean increasing wait time towards forever.
     
  8. H83

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    This^ I´ve been following hardware releases since the Phenom cpus and i don´t remember a situation like this where we have plenty of cpus to buy and no boards tos use them... What´s the point then???

    AMD really need to talk to their board partners because AMD is the one being affected by this...
     
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    Have to say though, AMD did it to themselves. This is what has the possibility to happen when one drums up hype and then the product is not well perceived, aka faildozer. About the only reason they still have board partners is that the AM3+ socket lasted as long as it did. Once bitten, twice shy. This time the product lived up to the hype. No way anyone comes out of the previous mess created by AMD's marketing arm clean. Money does not buy trust.
     
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    Ok..........i stick with my 4770k 4.3 then....!!!
    Not worth the upgade
     

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