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Review: AMD Ryzen 5 3600X Six core processor

Discussion in 'Frontpage news' started by Hilbert Hagedoorn, Jul 19, 2019.

  1. D3M1G0D

    D3M1G0D Ancient Guru

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    That's funny, Tom's Hardware also had this article last year indicating:
    AMD X470 vs Intel Z390: High-End Platforms Square Off

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coffee_Lake
    Z370 is enthusiast (and by extension Z390), and so is X370/X470/X570. This is the plain simple truth of the matter and no amount of word salad will change it.
     
  2. coth

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    Marketing is not market. Z390 and X570 are not on the same market with X299 and X399. And even id calling B450 and H370 mainstream, then situation is even far worse, as then it receiving major downgrades in past year. Yet still 1,5 times as expensive as top mainstream 8 years ago.
     
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    Guys, can someone please test Assassin's Creed Origins benchmark with and without SMT enabled? If you get still 15-20% worse score and much more fps stuttering with SMT enabled.
     
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  5. D3M1G0D

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    Nobody said they were. X299 and X399 are HEDT platforms, which are an entirely separate category (professional consumers, or prosumers). Z390 and X570 are consumer-class enthusiast chipsets (you don't have to be a prosumer to be an enthusiast).
     
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    But HEDT is enthusiast. Just a modern name of it. In the past they've been used as synonyms.
    https://www.intc.com/investor-relat...s-First-8-Core-Desktop-Processor/default.aspx
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haswell_(microarchitecture)

    But if you still implying, then, again, this looks even worse. Instead of bringing better performance into mainstream, old enthusiast remain enthusiast, yet newer more power products rips even more money and call, well whatever you want it to call - HEDT, prosummer, proautumn, profall or profail.
     
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    HWUB just did a video on this very topic.
     
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    you're gonna get it now :D
     
  10. spajdrik

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    Hmm, interesting, so he tested it in-game rather than running a benchmark for AC Odyssey and get better results with SMT.
    I can immediately notice a difference in the game and in the benchmark, it stutters a lot with SMT on.
    People recommend disabling SMT via process lasso, but if I do that, the game randomly stops for a few seconds.
    I guess it's not same as disabling SMT in bios.
     

  11. D3M1G0D

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    You can keep tossing that word salad but it won't help you. I am a HEDT customer myself (X399) and in no way would I call X470 or Z390 boards "mainstream" - mainstream implies that most people buy said product. Most people cannot afford these boards, nor would they need the features that they provide - they are only for high-end power users who have the money are interested in pushing their systems (in other words, they are for enthusiasts).
     
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    Sorry bud but you don't get to state what is enthusiast and what is not. Z390 has been stated is enthusiast, as well as x370 x470 and x570. 2nd time i've had to state this, sadly.


    Sorry but how can you make this statement when you don't even know the costs of the PCI-Express 4.0 implementation or the cost of the chipset? Oh wait you're coth, you do what coth does, and trolls. Again and again and again and you just continue to not get banned.

    Ha!

    2008 i bought a Foxconn Destroyer for $239.99, it wasn't the most expensive motherboard i could buy. Price "range" for motherboards haven't really changed over the years. Some years there's really expensive ones, some years they top out at around $300. But enthusiast, top of the line motherboards, topping out at $150? Didn't happen unless you're talking about AMD motherboards after bulldozer and before ryzen, as there were no top of the line motherboards then...so.....

    And you can get x570 boards for $154.99 if you need to save a penny just to have your precious PCI-Express 4.0 you won't even use.

    https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?N=100007625 601334781&Order=PRICE

    Again, why is this guy not banned yet? He's clearly trolling, and has been since the day he got here.
     
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    its people whining that rtx is expensive while being the only one with RT cores, that are the same one whining that x570 is expensive while being the only one with Gen 4 pcie
     
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    Above: Stock AMD cooler on the 3600X. We reach a max temp of 72 Degrees C (Tdie). That is running a 1024M Prime test.

    Seriously now.If i was to install this and try to boot up my PC and then go load a torture test straight away, only a few mins later to find out that it goes up to 72c max, i would be pissed.Glad i bought some Grizzly Kryonaut paste before getting the CPU, to kick it's ***.Like i knew this would happen.That temperature is kinda unacceptable for me.It stands at the very top of "acceptable" temperatures.Like right before falling from a cliff.Did AMD REALLY needed to go that far for it?It's like they were expecting ppl who will push the CPU to it's absolute limit, to use an aftermarker cooler or paste anyway, for the most part down the line.As always thank you Hilbert for the nice review.
     
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    It's a stock cooler, 72 degrees isn't bad, and have you looked at intels stock coolers?

    Really confused what the "complaint" is here.
     

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    Where I come from, we have a saying.
    "if you give people elephants, they are gonna start asking for miracles"

    He wanted AMD to include an 280mm AIO with their processors.
     
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    um, yeah, the market does decide what is and isn't enthusiast.... thats how it works.
     
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    And he is not the market nor are you.

    And reality is, the market really doesn't. The companies do for their products since it's THEIR product, and the individual does for their own interests.

    Anyone can be an "enthusiast" for anything, be it a server enthusiast, HEDT enthusiast, gaming enthusiast, or quite frankly even a bare-bones bottom performance get out of it as much as you can enthusiast.

    Nothing changes this, you're an "enthusiast" in whatever you want to be, but the COMPANIES get to label their products "enthusiast" grade. Whatever their metric is for their decision to label it as, is as well theirs, just as what you are an enthusiast in, is yours to decide.

    If Coth wants to say he's an HEDT enthusiast, then by all means he can do that, but that's not what he's doing, he's instead stating what the companies call enthusiast and saying it isn't, and then applying a global net of what everyone else has to be interested in to be an enthusiast.

    So no, again, you, him, anyone does not get to state what enthusiast is. Thats your own deal for your own person, and the companies decision to label things as enthusiast, which is THEIR product, is their own deal and decision.
     
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  19. Astyanax

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    amd wasn't enthusiast for years because the market shunned it.

    thats how the market works, the companies don't get to decide they are enthusiast,
     
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    My complaint was that it's too close to the limit of what a CPU should have.If it's higher than 75c then you need to start worrying a bit.I do acknowledge what AMD did here and for stock it's good.Also know that Intel's coolers are way worse, but sitting a few degrees lower than the "dangerous zone" is bad.Sorry for not making myself clear before.
     

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