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Review: AMD Ryzen 5 3600X Six core processor

Discussion in 'Frontpage news' started by Hilbert Hagedoorn, Jul 19, 2019.

  1. Aura89

    Aura89 Ancient Guru

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    Sorry bud but you don't get to state what is enthusiast and what is not. Z390 has been stated is enthusiast, as well as x370 x470 and x570.
     
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    I'm still seeing this whole Zen2 range of CPUs as a great line-up and can't wait to get my hands on the next Threadripper lineup.

    Those complaining about not being able to overclock I suppose need to get with the times. Don't get me wrong, I've been a tuner, enthusiast and overclocker for probably more years than some have been alive, (I / we) don't have to like it, but things change.

    For example, I believe a real sports car has a manual gear-shift - but these days all the sports cars I like (save maybe one), come with flappy paddle auto. They're faster, but often don't feel as engaging to drive.

    Another example, I'm having to get used to having no optical drive in my new case - I mean, seriously, so many cases dropping optical drive bays.

    Anyway, AMD are providing automatic overclocking... Maybe it's the way of the future...
     
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  5. Astyanax

    Astyanax Ancient Guru

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    If you aren't going to read the things linked, stop replying to me.

    the B and X 300 and 400 series parts are also affected when on a 1.0.0.2 AGESA.


    Heres a B350 + 3600
    https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/cd7pqb/warning_samsung_nvme_ssds_also_subject_to_whea/eu5yu23/

    Heres a B450 + 3600
    https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/cd7pqb/warning_samsung_nvme_ssds_also_subject_to_whea/eu5r6iz/

    Heres a X370 + 3800X
    https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/cd7pqb/warning_samsung_nvme_ssds_also_subject_to_whea/eu1t8d2/

    x570's with 1.0.0.2 shipped are affected, even with 1xxx and 2xxx processors.

    This user updated their tomahawk with a beta bios that has agesa 1.0.0.3 and fixed the WHEA errors
    https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/cd7pqb/warning_samsung_nvme_ssds_also_subject_to_whea/etuoilc/
     
  6. Loophole35

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    The issue discussed in that thread pertains to using a PCI3.0 NVMe on the PCI4.0 lanes. Last I checked (and also stated in your own fucking link) that’s X570.

    If you bothered to read the whole thread you would see Intel users reporting the same errors. It’s Windowa not AMD.
     
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  7. Astyanax

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    Threads evolve as information comes to light, the origin of the issue is the same as that of the Geforce and Radeon WHEA errors being experienced when a board is running AGESA 1.0.0.2

    This is one of the 1xxx users experiencing the issue after applying a AGESA 1.0.0.2 bios to their board.
     
  8. Loophole35

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    Intel users reporting the same. It’s a Windows issue not AMD. Again you are in here simply to talk crap about AMD. Go had your Intel circle jerk somewhere else.
     
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  9. airbud7

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    Dude!.....Your the one that needs to stop replying...you shut up!
     
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  10. Astyanax

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    It seems the pair of you are thoroughly incapable of reading past the first post, Robert Hallock himself has dissociated the corruption the op experienced from the WHEA error and that AMD are investigating.

    Maybe both of you need to move past your own ego's and problems with me and Educate yourselves.

    FYI: AMD's cpu division are the ones i won't fanboy against, I'm sick of Intel's bs with their barely changed performance and pricing.

    This AMD Ryzen launch was rushed to get the 7/7 date, but you guys are looking like clueless fanboys right now because you're arguing against confirmable information.



    TO REITERATE TO THOSE WHO CARE FOR A FUNCTIONING PC:

    The 1.0.0.2 AGESA is to be avoided on your 300 and 400 series board, and if you have a 500 series board, Get flashed to 1.0.0.3 asap, Yes, even if you have a 1xxx or 2xxx series Ryzen processor.

    To those who already put a 3xxx in an older board and are having issues that the pair above are totally oblivious too, check with your vendor for a beta bios, MSI have them available here, keep an eye on ROG forums for Asus beta's, Raja occasionally posts them there first.

    Gigabyte x570 users who are on a 1.0.0.2 bios and affected can update to the matching bios here

    Some Gigabyte 300 and 400 series boards are still on 1.0.0.2 unfortunately but check the support page as they are being updated to 1.0.0.3AB in light of ABA failing validation.
     
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  11. metagamer

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    What a nice little cpu. My brother just upgraded his and his girlfriend's rig from 8320 to a 2600 (couldn't quite stretch to 3600) and he's loving it. These 3600/x chips seem brilliant value for money. What annoys me is that I still feel no need to upgrade. Those looking to upgrade from a slow cpu should definitely be considering these though, reading waltc3's comments about how they boost to 4.4 out the box no problem is really nice.
     
  12. Astyanax

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    Yeah, i definitely like the performance of the 3600 for the most part.
    Personally i would aim for the 3900 though at the least just to thoroughly avoid the design choice AMD made with the memory writes being 16b as some of my tasks are memory write heavy.
     
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    Damn, you dinosauraus! ;-)
     
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    Another comparison video showing the 25% extra cost gives you 3-5% performance at best.

    REMOVED: Moderator - please stop posting YT videos in discussion forums.
     
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    If you need bleeding edge technology, please buy X570. I hope knowing that you have fully supported PCIe 4.0 will make you sleep better at night.

    Most people who want to get best performance for the money, will go with X470 or cheaper chipsets. I won't be able to utilize PCIe 4.0, I don't have or need such storage speeds.
    I don't need overkill components, I just need it stability. Don't care if I lose less than 1% in performance to X570.
    If I ever would need any components, I'd rather buy it separately, than buy it and wonder when I gonna need it.

    EDIT: You get more choices by going with AMD and yeah, it sucks since you have to think for yourself what you need and not.
    Much easier with Intel! You must use new chipset every CPU refresh Intel does, so there no need to waste time wondering if you want to go with previous gen chipset or modern one! Intel just hate to see consumers suffering on deciding which chipset they should go with!
     
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    Just because somebody in marketing division wants to make their product to look premium it doesn't make it premium automatically. Both Z390 and X570 are both competing on mainstream market.
    https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-x570-vs-intel-z390-chipset-faceoff,6240.html
     
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    You can go with X470, but that's not the point. The point is that X570 is the current generation successor to X470 and it is expensive for no apparent reason.

    The point is that when it happens to Nvidia and Intel, some here above blaming Nvidia and Intel for high unreasonable prices. But when it happens to AMD they have full commitment to huge prices and they start to call out and throw some crap over people who disagree on this, like the one above.

    The point is - just 8 years ago advanced motherboards were priced at $120 to $150. Now to get some set of controllers, advanced piped cooling, power you have to pay $360.
     
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    PCI ex4 controllers are expensive.

    PCI ex4 controllers are expensive.

    We still have motherboard priced at $120 and below for mainstream consumers, which are still being produced afaik.

    https://www.amazon.com/Ryzen-Gaming-Motherboard-Prime-B450-Plus/dp/B07FKT5CTH

    https://www.amazon.com/ASRock-MicroATX-Motherboard-B450M-PRO4/dp/B07FVYKFXF/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1GY4L57T7P17&keywords=asrock+b450m+pro4&qid=1563800381&s=electronics&sprefix=asrock+b,electronics,1558&sr=1-1

    I think you either trolling or just don't want to understand how marketing works. You are basically barking that we must buy Titan RTX for $3000, when there are RTX2060 / RTX2070 available for less than $500.

    I am done here.

    edit: added compare of Novidia videocards prices to show the comparison of your point.
     
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  20. coth

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    Again, marketing division, not market division.

    Only because AMD want them to be expensive.

    Those are budget, not mainstream, with budget controllers, simple set of features, poor cooling. 8 years ago you could get top motherboards with equipment like now for $360-400. They were 3 times cheaper.

    That's not how market works, that how monopolies works.

    Titan X is an enthusiast group. With CPU and chipsets that is Threadripper and X399 chipset. I didn't say a word about their pricing.
     

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