Discussion in 'Frontpage news' started by Hilbert Hagedoorn, Feb 7, 2019.
Yep, lets continue to post arbitrary benchmarks with no discourse on why the results are the way they are.
Saying it's okay for content creators is a bit of a generalization. It's good at certain content creation workloads and worse at others.
Even content creators have their limits as to the amount of noise coming from their desktop computer.
Just undervolt it and it is silent or invest $50 in those silent noctua fans like they did in the RTG article.
16 GB and 1 TB/s for $700 is gold for content creators vs. NVidia's alternative for $2300.
In a business they take the product as-is and IT departments don't overclock or undervolt components.
Edit: Nvidia's alternative for content providers costs about $900 - Quadro RTX 4000. However they could also use the RTX 2080 or RTX 2080ti as they also perform quite well in content provider product review test in Feb. 2019.
As does the Radeon VII, while also performing better.
There is a perfectly good reason for that. Uptime is king in any 24/7 environment.
And you don't trade anything for stability.
Any speed and efficiency concerns go out of the window when your GPU throws an error after few days of calculations.
Hopefully the review I linked will include results from the VII in the future. Anandtech review does display content creation tests for apples-to-oranges comparison (diff cpu, memory) with link above.
Not sure but VII has ECC memory?
No more Radeon VII on newegg? why? (all listings disappeared)...
Maybe after positive feedback and good sales numbers AIB partners decide to make custom cards? so the reference cards stock is decreasing?
BYSKI A-Radeon VII-X Waterblock For AMD Radeon VII Graphics Card Released – Full Coverage Liquid Goodness With Wide RGB Support
I see they are listed on aliexpress as well;
Likely means all products are sold out and newegg has no idea if, or when they will get new stock, and therefore have pulled the pages until they have any information at all.
They are $850 and up on amazon, and none are sold by amazon itself but resellers, so looks like there's very little legitimate companies that have them in stock, just resellers.
EK Teases their Radeon VII Full Cover Water Block
PugetSystems just posted new DaVinci review- and this is w/o Pro drivers .
So Stock issues fixed? I see all VII in stock on newegg+ Discoun't started~ $679 for PowerColor Radeon VII!
Re-tested 3 months later:
^ and still gash!
Did anyone actually cared to think about what was compared? Dude says that both cards for all models usually cost around their MSRP $699.
But he did compare Radeon VII against 2080 Aorus Xtreme which costs 20% more.
Objectivity screams from that video. That particular 2080 is clocked 10.5% more on GPU than reference. And after that OC he dares to talk about TDP difference.
i didn't buy a radeon VII to outbench rtx 2080ti.
or any other card, i bought it for two reasons 1) it was more than good enough for 21:9 1440, and 2) it will get better until my replacement for it in 18months - 2 years...aka "fine wine".
which by the way was very similar to my reasoning buying the gtx 1080ti three months after launch.
although i'm paid well, i'm not paid well enough to buy outside my parameters of use, this isn't about aspiration for me.
and when i bought the gtx1080ti i was running an Intel X99 system, as that at the time was the only cpu series that met my parameters of use (in this case pcie lanes).
i'm still using a laptop with a gtx1070 and Kaby Lake 7700 cpu, as the new laptops are not significantly better (yet...when the price comes down in a few months i'll eat those words) and they are quite the power pigs as is mine.
what i'm waiting for is to see the power consumption numbers of mobile Ryzen 2 (3000 series) and the power consumption of Navi for mobile. if Intel/Nvidia beats that, that's my new laptop, otherwise not.
A number of Youtubers forget to mention Vega tweaking and undervolting. A Radeon VII undervolted can easily be in the realm of 2080 TDP.
But reference is hard to compare to for Turing as there really is no reference clocks anymore I thought.
There are still non-reference 2080s clocked as reference while costing ~$700. But it is not like I would demand that. I would like it if people who deliver mind changing information did that without deceiving their audience.
Really not fair to show some random $700 Radeons VII and GTX 2080s and then bring quite more expensive 2080 without mentioning it.
Actually, price difference is so high that in terms of performance per USD, Radeon VII did win quite a bit.
Video simply was not objective. And it could have been done that way on purpose.