wow, thanks for clearing that up, Sherlock, who would have thought that? Of course they expect them to sell. And they will sell. But, they are in limited supply at minimum profit. They will make AMD pocket change money. And RVII is obviously a stop gap until Navi comes out, that's where their focus is, or at least I hope it is. Now to back up what I said. https://www.anandtech.com/show/13923/the-amd-radeon-vii-review https://hexus.net/tech/reviews/graphics/126752-amd-radeon-vii/ https://www.scan.co.uk/tekspek/gpu-graphics/amd-radeon-vii-graphics-card I could go on about how the RVII is just a modified MI50, please say if you need me to back up my claim more, I have time today. They make these chips already, have plenty of them. They slap them on a PCB and sell them to market. About the cost of making these RVII cards, HBM2 16gb alone costs around $320. Do I need to add more? In comparison, 11gb of GDDR6 costs around $110. Cost of 8gb GDDR6 is around $80. Now take into account that RVII is competing against the 2080. The cost of memory on the RVII is $320, the cost of memory on the 2080 is $80. Nvidia save $240 on memory alone on these cards, compared to AMD! This is why AMD never bothered spending money on R&D to make a RVII with GDDR6. Because even if they spent the money on R&D to make the RVII run with GDDR6 and release a cheaper RVII with GDDR6, Nvidia would just drop their prices, because they can. AMD's profit margin would remain same-ish with RVII GDDR6, but they would have to pay out for the R&D. Which makes no sense. This is why they just slap these packages on a PCB and sell them at the price they do. And if you account that the memory itself costs $320, then add the actual gpu, manufacturing cost, all the overheads. They really make next to no profit. They're literally just using up whatever stock of these they have available to get shot of them.