Review: AMD Radeon RX Vega 56 8GB

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  1. sammarbella

    sammarbella Ancient Guru

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    Nvidia don't need to lower his prices at all:

    1080 base model perform better in the major part of games (DX11) and any factory OC model outperform Vega 64 by a good margin IN ALL GAMES.
    Vega OC is slim at best on air.Water cooled Vega 64 model enter 1080ti price range to get some sort of OC (no throttling clocks).

    Read HH Vega 64 review and try to explain to a PC gamer Vega 64 really worth 100 pounds more than a 1080.

    Improvements in drivers along the next 2 years?

    Same applies to 1070 VS Vega 56.

    Only miners (?¿?) and AMD fanatic fanboys are going to buy these GPUs at these prices.
     
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  2. D3M1G0D

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    The cheapest 1070 that I could find on Newegg is $429. Also, seems that Vega 64 has mostly sold out.
     
  3. Elder III

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    I do like the looks of a Vega 56 with a nice AIB cooler on it. Based on preliminary reviews it does look like a winner for me in that price and performance range. Sadly it's the better part of a year late, but I do think it's a winner right now (unlike it's big brother).
     
  4. sammarbella

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    If you speak about GPU total sell figures i must agree.

    In anything related to PC gaming these cards are DOA with these prices.
     

  5. Redemption80

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    Do we have shop prices for Vega 56 yet?

    Maybe I'm blind, but can't see any yet, but since the new Vega64 price is $600, I would expect Vega56 to be $500.

    Likely around £450 here, which is nearly £100 more than the 1070...
     
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    Standard swizzle supported, now everything we need is this GPU embedded in UMA with ThreadRipper.
     
  7. icedman

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    wow vega 64 air cooled is 670$ on new egg and i can get gtx 1080 for 526$ i hope the mining craze ends soon.
     
  8. XP-200

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    I am ready to replace my 970, so whoever goes the cheaper gets my cash. Lol
     
  9. cowie

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    I don't think miners want it that much its 31 hashrate thing not 70 like the salesmen said a few weeks back
     
  10. cowie

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    nah
    at best a new ti card
     

  11. thatguy91

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    Nice performance, especially considering the drivers could potentially have large performance headroom and future games may leverage the performance better.
     
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    I've got a backlog of older games that my system runs maxed out and smooth, plus a bunch of PS4 games to play. I'll probably hold off another generation. I'd like to bump up to 1080 TI performance or better, but I can wait until that's $300-ish.
     
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    Thank you Hilbert for this great review!
     
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    not that it would affect my purchase if i were looking to upgrade (i know, i need to hehe), but why is there such a large difference in actual power draw? im sitting here looking at all the whitepapers & cant quite put my finger on it. the voltage cant be that much lower for 100mhz clock speed difference between the 56 & 64...
     
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    New hardware is always grossly overpriced... nothing ever launches at MSRP. Shortage and desire to buy makes prices inflated.

    At the moment you can't buy a RX 4/5x0 here, you can't buy a GTX 1060 at anything close to what they were a year ago. They're almost 50% more expensive.

    Vega is going to sit at "too expensive" for a while.

    And those saying "nvidia can just lower their prices" - well, no, they obviously can't.
     

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    Vega 56 = 236W
    Vega 64 = 334W
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    5% higher clocks
    14% more phy
    10% higher voltage


    1.14 * 1.05 * (1.10)^2 = 1.44

    236 * 1.44 = 342W ~ 334W

    BOOOM :pc1:

    [​IMG]
     
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    I think Nvidia already has though, 1070s now start around £360, while Vega64 starts at £550.
    I'm also hearing that this is actually the new MSRP and the $500 was actually just a launch price and it will be $600 going forward which likely means $500/£450 for Vega 56.
     
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    http://www.pcgamer.com/nvidias-next-gen-volta-gaming-gpus-arent-arriving-anytime-soon/

    Not this year I guess.
     
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    No they really haven't. A quarter ago, he said something along the lines nothing will change with Vega release, and that they remain confident in Pascal.

    And albeit Huang can sometimes give PR-like statements, but then he smiles and you can see he's half joking, this answer was given in a serious tone.

    For me the biggest hint was the amount of 1080Ti AIB models arriving during Vega finishing touches.
     

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