Discussion in 'Frontpage news' started by Hilbert Hagedoorn, Jun 24, 2015.
A new socket design may help too, as they've been using AM3/AM3+ for far too long.
He was talking about crossfire, I'm not kidding you, if you are suggesting those crossfire numbers are wrong then ok, looking forward to see real numbers.
I wouldn't get so upset about the Nvidia vs amd thing if I was you. They are competing very closely at every performance level, and we customers should be happy about it.
That socket is older than that its started with the AM2. AM2+/AM3/AM3+ are all revisions of the same socket. In fact if you look around you will find pre-built budget gaming rigs running and AM2+ 760G motherboard with a veshera 6300 CPU. Like this one.
I'm sorry if I seem upset as I'm not. I'm just trying to paint the picture from a more business perspective and where AMD has gone wrong and right on certain things. I'm not saying Fury X is bad (I've even stated this somewhere in this thread). He seem intent on blaming other companies for AMD's financial issues, but doesn't do the research, or look into the history of why they are in the position they are in. If he prefers AMD that's fine, but their position in the market is 100% their own doing. As I stated before they have things they could use to improve their position, but yet they capitalize on things like benchmarks and videos, rather than offering technologies that rival nvidia (or Intel). I'm sure that if AMD marketed something similar to gameworks and pushed it as heavily as Nvidia does then I'm sure more would jump over to the red side. But at the same I also understand that their R&D budget is much smaller for these things due to being spread across 3 segments of the industry (CPUs, APUs, and GPUs). I hope I haven't offended you, but that is just the way I see it.
Oops! Almost forgot to touch on crossfire. I haven't seen any reviews or benches that suggest how crossfire vs. SLI support is, but my whole argument with him had nothing to do with that. It just had to with AMD making poor choices with their money over the years and that is why AMD is in the position they are in. If later benches show that Fury X crossfire truly does rival Titan X then good on AMD, but at the same time I would take it with a grain of salt as Digital storms single card performance yields similar results as other sites when compared to the 980 Ti.
SLI vs Crossfire results:
Single card results:
Their own benchmarks are confusing as how can a single card only compare to the cut down 980 Ti, yet when shown in crossfire they somehow compare to the Titan X? It makes zero sense.
I know of nobody personally that has issues with the vram on a 970. Single or sli.
Yes I know they're all revisions of the same socket. It's why you could just flash the bios in most cases to add support for AM3/AM3+ socketed CPUs. In fact back in the day I had quite a few AM2/AM2+/AM3/AM3+ CPU's before moving back to Intel with SandyBridge.
Very cool, the card isn't perfect, I'm still buy one.
Thank for your post !
Actually single card results are exactly the same in the two reviews you linked (single and CF) so they would be coherent, while the CF vs SLI numbers are impressive, if they are true!
Thats what I saw. I'm not sure why nvidia fans just can't accept the Fury X delivers. THen crossfire the card , which out performs a two titans that would be 800 dollars more ... LOL .... Just the beginning, get your AMD stock now :infinity:
We'll have to wait and see as no other sites so far to my knowledge have done SLI vs Crossfire reviews yet only single card. Those are the same results that Mars mentioned earlier to me in which he said Fury X CF beat Titan X. But at the same time many of the results in the CF review look copied/pasted from the single card review as there is no way that 2 cards would remain the same temp as a single card when under load (I have SLI and the master card is always slightly warmer than the bottom card) . Something is really off with the temps as they just seem wrong when compared to load temps in actual SLI or CF reviews.
Go for it. I'm not going to tell you how you should spend your money. I'm going for a MSI 980Ti Gaming myself.
Fury X CrossFire vs reference SLi 980ti results are incoming ...
Poor man's transulation:
Good choice good OC 980Ti hits 22k, 5k more than fury x
More results from Sweden
The older 295x2 problems are more important imo That card been out quite a long time.
I'm looking to go 980ti sli soon. Going to stay away from reference design this time.
They had problems providing proper air flow for the 980 Ti's in their test, their cards throttled horribly.
Though ironically, this is pretty much the only case where the Fury X shines, if you are getting two of these cards, money is not really an issue; and having the cards close together but water cooled helps them over the air cooled competition.
If your cards are stacked next to each other, the top card temps will suck big time, been there done that
So back to exactly like years before. AMD 1st flag ship only match/best NV 2nd flagship.
CF scaling usualy better so can close the gap/match/beat SLI. Nothing change. For those who choose their side just keep supporting AMD so they can continue the duopoly.
except the fury x fire out performs the titan x sli