Reload this Page WEIRD: Computer stutters EXACTLY every hour.

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  1. gtrajectory

    gtrajectory Master Guru

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    Too late, waiting till next hour.
     
  2. Phil Pendlebury

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    The last issue I had similar to this was Apple MobileMe trying to auto sync. Took me ages to trace it.

    It's a good idea to get a startup manager of some kind.

    Autoruns from www.sysinternals.com is a good free start.
     
  3. ajua

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    I don't anything running mentioned here but i have a RAID array that i just created 15 days ago. The random stutters began after this and are likely to be the RAID drivers (i use Intel Storage Manager) or Nvidia drivers on some computers configurations...

    The latest Nvidia beta drivers hold the sutters in some way but i still experience them on games, playing music or doing nothing but staring at the computer...

    Other probable cause could be audio drivers (i update my realtek with every new version).

    However, i think that the cause is RAID (drivers or controller) or Nvidia drivers.
     
  4. gtrajectory

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    If you read my initial post you can see: Sapphire HD 3870X2 (Latest Catalyst), which means no nvidia. Also already mentioned I don't have anything RAID related installed.
     

  5. linyanti

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    The Everest log files can get large. You may want to have it poll every second. Then you can always reset it to the default which I think is five seconds.

    These files get to be about one meg after a day but then I just delete all of the files once I am finished with them. And I only run Everest when I am curious about something.

    There is a "Stats" file and a "log" file created. The stats file is nice to see max temp, etc. but the log file will show the time each program started.

    Then you just scroll down the page to the time when the incident happens. If there is a problem then it will usually be about three lines that are all red.

    It will also put other events in blue that are happening but not causing a problem. Like punkbuster checking, etc.

    I have to mention that the instructions on the Lavalys website are terrible. None of the stuff is intuitive and the controls are not what they should be in my opinion. Then there are not enough screenshots of how to do things.

    Here is an edited copy and paste of the html everest log page to notepad so it definitely looks prettier in real life.

    But you can see that itunes was started at 6:20:06 PM and then I updated itunes. You can also see when MS Paint and Winmail was started.

    I cannot use the functions that come built into windows. There are too many functions going on. If your logging frequency in Everest under "preferences" is one second then you could see exactly what program was started at that point in time. All of those numbers to the right of the times are the values for voltage, etc.

    Here is the edited copy and paste of polling every ten seconds:

    Version EVEREST v4.50.1330
    CPU Type QuadCore Intel Core 2 Extreme QX6800, 2933 MHz (11 x 267)
    Motherboard Name Asus Striker Extreme
    Video Adapter nVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTS (p356) Video Adapter


    8/4/2008 6:18:26 PM 2933 11.0 267 400 0 33 0 0 0 14 7027
    SearchFilterHost.exe, SearchProtocolHost.exe
    8/4/2008 6:18:35 PM 2933 11.0 267 400 11 28 10 9 8 14 7024
    8/4/2008 6:18:46 PM 2933 11.0 267 400 4 7 4 1 4 14 7018 621
    8/4/2008 6:18:56 PM 2933 11.0 267 400 2 3 2 2 1 14 7019 621
    8/4/2008 6:19:06 PM 2933 11.0 267 400 3 5 3 1 2 14 7020 621 151
    8/4/2008 6:19:16 PM 2933 11.0 267 400 4 6 4 4 3 14 7032 621 1
    8/4/2008 6:19:26 PM 2933 11.0 267 400 5 10 5 2 4 14 7010 6
    dllhost.exe, iexplore.exe
    8/4/2008 6:19:36 PM 2933 11.0 267 400 7 11 7 7 5 15 6988 6
    dllhost.exe
    8/4/2008 6:19:46 PM 2933 11.0 267 400 3 4 3 2 2 15 6990 621 151
    iexplore.exe
    8/4/2008 6:19:56 PM 2933 11.0 267 400 5 4 10 2 4 14 7010 621 151
    iTunes.exe
    8/4/2008 6:20:06 PM 2933 11.0 267 400 16 13 16 10 20 15 6927 621 1
    AppleMobileDeviceHelper.exe, distnoted.exe
    8/4/2008 6:20:16 PM 2933 11.0 267 400 19 17 17 18 24 15 6939 621 1512 1
    AppleMobileDeviceHelper.exe, iTunes.exe
    8/4/2008 6:20:26 PM 2933 11.0 267 400 11 11 13 14 9 15 6988 621 1512 1053
    iexplore.exe
    8/4/2008 6:20:36 PM 2933 11.0 267 400 10 14 8 10 7 15 6951 621 1512 1053 6
    distnoted.exe
    8/4/2008 6:20:46 PM 2933 11.0 267 400 12 13 11 16 11 15 6977 621 1512

    8/4/2008 6:20:56 PM 2933 11.0 267 400 6 5 6 8 5 15 6979 621 1512 1053
    8/4/2008 6:21:06 PM 2933 11.0 267 400 5 3 4 6 5 15 6978 621 1512 1053
    mspaint.exe
    8/4/2008 6:21:17 PM 2933 11.0 267 400 6 2 4 9 5 15 6952 621 1512 1053 621 15
    8/4/2008 6:21:27 PM 2933 11.0 267 400 6 4 6 12 6 15 6961 621 1512 1053 621 1512 10
    8/4/2008 6:21:37 PM 2933 11.0 267 400 5 5 2 7 5 15 6963 621 1512 1053 621 1512 1053
    8/4/2008 6:21:47 PM 2933 11.0 267 400 3 3 2 4 3 15 6960 621 1512 1053 621 1512 1053 8
    8/4/2008 6:21:57 PM 2933 11.0 267 400 6 4 7 10 4 15 6958 621 1512 1053 621 1512 105
    8/4/2008 6:22:07 PM 2933 11.0 267 400 4 4 5 6 2 15 6960 621 1512 1053 621 1512 1053
    notepad.exe
    8/4/2008 6:22:17 PM 2933 11.0 267 400 4 5 4 5 4 15 6957 621 1512 1053 621 1512 1053
    8/4/2008 6:22:27 PM 2933 11.0 267 400 3 3 4 3 3 15 6958 621 1512 1053 621 1512 1053
    SearchFilterHost.exe
    8/4/2008 6:22:37 PM 2933 11.0 267 400 6 3 7 5 6 15 6962 621 1512 1053 621 1512 1053
    iexplore.exe, notepad.exe
    8/4/2008 6:23:27 PM 2933 11.0 267 400 5 5 3 7 4 15 6989 621 1512 1053 621 1512 1053
    iexplore.exe
    mspaint.exe
    8/4/2008 6:23:37 PM 2933 11.0 267 400 15 13 12 19 11 15 6931 621 1512 1053 621 1512
    WinMail.exe
    8/4/2008 6:23:48 PM 2933 11.0 267 400 17 16 13 21 21 16 6910 621 1512 1053 621 1512
    dllhost.exe
    WinMail.exe
    8/4/2008 6:23:58 PM 2933 11.0 267 400 16 17 14 16 17 16 6907 621 1512 1053 621 1512
    dllhost.exe, iexplore.exe
    8/4/2008 6:24:08 PM 2933 11.0 267 400 11 15 11 14 8 15 6976 621 1512 1053 621 1512
     
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  6. FatBoyNL

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    I reckoned it to be the polling of the S.M.A.R.T. statuses :p
    Did you try disabling (all) unneeded startup-processes and -services using msconfig?
     
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  7. gtrajectory

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    I've looked and theres nothing suspicious.
     
  8. DAngel

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    Windows enables power saving mode for HDDs that aren't used for 30 minutes or so; change the power options so windoes doesn't turn off your HDDs when iddle for a long time...
     
  9. KillerC

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    Ok give this a try:

    start
    run
    msconfig
    selective startup
    startup tab (I'm using vista now so the tab may be different but i don't think so)

    now find a startup program called HPWuSchd2.exe OR HPWuSchd.exe and uncheck it so it won't start.

    reboot and see if it still happens.

    this is the annoying program that checks the Internet for HP printer updates and used to pop up a tab on y taskbar for a second or 2 to check for updates 4 or 5 times a day , you can always check manually every so often for updates from the HP startup folder/HP auto update program.

    good luck and do NOT uncheck the wrong HP program.
     
  10. linyanti

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    I have to put in a pitch for Everest again

    I have to put in a pitch for Everest again. I installed it after trying unsuccessfully to get rid of a problem by using the process of elimination.

    If you have Everest running and polling once a second then you can see exactly what program turned on to give a specific command at that moment.

    This is the only way that I could figure it out since there were so many programs running in the background.

    HP updates are terrible. Adobe, Apple are persistently irritating.
     

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    after all these suggestions and a nogo, frankly, i'd reset the bios to safe and format, reinstall windows and without installing anything, just wait an hour and see if it occurs.

    although granted it would take forever to isolate the cause if you had to wait an hour after installing each driver and app...you either simply use your computer differently with different apps, try to isolate or reinstall it all in one sitting and hope for the best.

    i have had to change my computer habits before to prevent certain problems. sometimes apps, how and what you use makes all the difference.
     
  13. gtrajectory

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    Said already.
     
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    If it's really that systematic on the clock then it can't be a fluke, it must be something firing off at regular intervals. If you know the exact time it is going to happen, make a log with process monitor for that time period and upload it, i will give it a look.
     
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    dont waist more time...reinstall that mofo, couldve had everything back up n running by now
    probably some f*d up malware,rootkit or corrupted crap or something..i dont see the point considering the time and frustration this must be causing by now
     

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    you can always blame Creative

    You do not list the sound cards you have had but Creative makes some great software that can repeatedly drives me crzay.

    Did you reset your time for fifteen minutes off the correct time and disconnect from the internet to see it is still at thirty minutes after the hour?

    How about just slowing down time so that it lasts longer?

    You could also change the time to twenty nine minutes after the hour and see if that triggers anything in process monitor or everest.

    Or reformat.
     
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    Probably wont be the HDD, else it should not happen exactly every hour.
    Probably some weird software on your PC.

    EDIT BTW try changing the time on your PC's clock to see if the stutter happens at different times, then you are sure its software related.
     
  18. gtrajectory

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    I've already tried the clock thing. For example, if the stutter happens every hour at 00, if I set -3 minutes, it would happen always at 57. After every reboot, it happens at a different minute, that should be because the countdown starts when I windows loads. But after it happens in a certain minute, its ALWAYS at that exact minute in the next hour.
     
  19. gtrajectory

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    I know I can format and it would be the best thing to do, but I would have to reinstall a ****load of useful stuff that I use, and man it would take ages to set it back at how it is atm.
     
  20. F1refly

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    but its already been 3 days...what happens if a month goes by and your still having this problem? sure its a hassle and takes along time but sometimes you have to eat it if its really something you find annoying.

    thats the problem with windows sometimes and is why every PC should have an image program.
    i suggest next time you buy Acronis Trueimage or soemthing like that and keep image backups

    maybe use a linux live cd for an hour....just to make sure 100% that its not hardware and is software...you can also make a windows live cd with bartpe i think but never tried myself. though no reason the symptoms should be hardware problem....ya just never know
     

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