Refresh for Intel boxed coolers with non-K Comet Lake processors

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  1. Hilbert Hagedoorn

    Hilbert Hagedoorn Don Vito Corleone Staff Member

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    sverek Ancient Guru

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    Yeah, you gonna need something bigger than that tiny heatsink.

    And man I hate those Intel coolers with socket lockers/screws. Can break them easily.

    Prefer AMD stock coolers that use bolts and screws, like normal CPU coolers. Can reuse heatsink without fear of breaking it.
     
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  3. alxtorrentazos

    alxtorrentazos Master Guru

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    Hilbert, thanks for the information but I would not use one of those even my life depends on it. Well, if I use one of those, my life expectancy will be very short if it caught fire.
     
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    sverek Ancient Guru

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    They fine for normal stock CPUs. Most office PCs have Intel stock cooler in them and they don't catch on fire. That's a majority of PCs for you.
     
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    jbscotchman Ancient Guru

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    Glad to see they finally got rid of those yellow wires.
     
  6. Kaarme

    Kaarme Ancient Guru

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    Someone should test a K model with that new cooler and see how long it can stay above 5GHz with it.
     
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    Still the Boxed coolers are still good for testing purposes just like the IGPU is for new PC builds. It is still miles away from what Intel had back during the LGA775 days where their stock coolers were actually decent. You had actual screw down coolers rather than that stupid push pin nonsense they have now which was born from the latter part of the LGA775 life. Plus they they did a decent job at cooling on top of that.
     
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    How the hell is Intel still using the push and pull pin system??? It´s hard as hell to install the damn thing and people risk cracking or breaking their mB because of it! Can´t they copy what others do and have a decent and easy install system...
     
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    SpajdrEX AMD Vanguard

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    Have i5 10400 coming tomorrow to me, but I surely won't use a box one.
     
  10. gx-x

    gx-x Maha Guru

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    but, they are the same as old ones, just colored black and with a slightly different sticker...
     

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    In the decade and a half I've been servicing PCs, I've found that the plastic parts of the Intel stock coolers always break eventually. Always.

    The heat that CPUs always put out is not quite hot enough to melt the plastic, but that heat is always there, making the plastic react and change. Over time, that plastic becomes brittle, like a flaky biscuit. This and the stress of the tension it has from keeping that heatsink pressed down against the CPU eventually causes it to silently break one or more feet, causing it to lose contact with the CPU. I have seen this occur as fast as just one year from the day they bought it.

    Most of the time, the only thing my clients notice is a higher temperature than usual and generally slower performance, but they usually think nothing of it and just reinstall Windows.

    I have grown to hate these things and from what is shown, the only "changes" they've done to the heatsink is cosmetic in nature, and still suffers from the same fundamental problem as before. This is the same damned heatsink, nothing new about it.

    At least the AMD Wraith Stealth cooler and Wrath Spire coolers all have metal securing brackets and screws and don't fail due to becoming brittle.

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    Those look so much cleaner than the old ones.

    As mentioned, the wire is all black and I also like the soft, rounded look of the entire unit. Not sure if they work the same (they look the same) but the old ones did the job fine for anything less than an i7. Even when I build an office machine with no window, I like the inside to look as nice as possible. For anyone building a light gamer that has to stare at the stock cooler, this is an upgrade. I remove/replace these junk coolers for my personal rigs, but they are fine for average use.
     
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    icedman Maha Guru

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    That is still a very pathetic looking cooler even for none k CPU's it needs to be twice as thick as it is now imo the old cooler couldn't even hold stock clocks back when i had the 3770k at stock settings.
     
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    So for the Non-K you can overclock via FSB so 48x 103.00 might be the limit. I might get the 10700 instead of the 10700k since it comes with a cooler and can oc close to 5ghz. Living room PC mobo died so this is a decent upgrade from 3570k
     
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    Do not expect anything magical from this cooler, my guess is it would be able to hold 3000-3200Mhz with good airflow and high noise, at around 90-95 C.
    A Wraith Prism looks twice the size and i am sure it would be a good upgrade if it fit the socket.
    Feel free to come back and prove me wrong.
     

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    These chips are not nearly as hot as I was expecting. I've been running my freshly installed i7-10700K all day today, doing everything from browsing the net to playing a few games like Ark which likes a lot of CPU, to a quick run of Cinebench R20 (scored 5100 with zero overclocking, totally stock settings), and the hottest core hit 58'c. Most were 54-56'c. When gaming the cpu doesn't even get over 50'c. I am running a custom loop that has a thin 360 and 280 rad, the old XSPC raystorm v3 block, aquacomputer pascal block, and my fans were all set to around 1k rpm.
     
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    While i appreciate the return to the copper core. those nasty push-pins will never be acceptable.
     
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    PFFT Intel should do a deal with AMD to use the Wraith Spire or Wraith Max as their OEM stock coolers instead of wasting money painting their no good garbage cooler
     
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    Or Intel could make a deal with Cooler Master to make coolers for them since the Wraith Spire and others of that model are Cooler Master based coolers with the AMD logo stamped on to them.
     
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    Nobody probably cares, but my i5 10400 still have old box design, not a new one.
     

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