Red Dead Redemption 2

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  1. Amaze

    Amaze Ancient Guru

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    No I mean like do you still need to go to a safehouse or can you save anywhere?
     
  2. BangTail

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    One thing I find incredibly lame is that even if I murder someone out in the woods, there is almost inevitably a witness.

    This kind of shitty game mechanic annoys me and there is absolutely no need for it.

    If you murder someone on Main Street in broad daylight, that's one thing but the game is trying to make a moral statement at the expense of immersion.
     
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    Interesting in depth video about how the game is using fake HDR from SDR source.
     
  4. KissSh0t

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  5. BangTail

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    Now this game is actually starting to annoy me.

    The bounty system is laughably stupid.

    I hit a guy by accident with my horse (because he was standing in the middle of the F**king road) and I get a bounty on me.

    A very obviously auto generated posse appears not more than 2 minutes later while I am in the middle of a forest and kills me.

    The bounty is still active, if I try to defend myself it goes up, the amount of money you can make committing crimes (which by mission of action will just continue to raise the bounty) is comparatively small, because I defended myself the first time they attacked me, I can no longer surrender and no matter how many times they kill me, the bounty is still active and the game takes a portion of my cash.

    Honestly, not a fan of this game at all, it is nowhere near as good as the first one, it does look incredibly nice and it is set in an open world but the game feels heavily scripted, restrictive and on rails.

    I'm going to stop playing it for now and hope they fix some of this crap.

    One other thing I have noticed is that some of the NPCs are incredibly gun happy, if you try to defend yourself when this happens, bounty.

    Do they get in any trouble, of course not :rolleyes:
     
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  6. Dragam1337

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    That's an interesting timeline for sure... perhaps they were making so much money from gta 5 that they were in no hurry to make a new game, or perhaps they were semi out of ideas for new games.
     
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  7. metagamer

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    Yeah, the game looks like a bit of a turd from what I've seen. Not only what you described, but it's so annoying with overdone ragdoll stuff everywhere you go. And it's tediously slow pacing. Give me GTA V over this any day of the week. Not even close.
     
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  8. BangTail

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    Yah, it's popularity is definitely being very heavily bolstered by the hype train and Rockstar tinted glasses.

    I loved the first one, I've played it through twice now, but this is a far, far cry from that.

    RDR 2 tries to sell you on being an outlaw but makes playing an outlaw ridiculously prohibitive to the point where you just want to turn it off.

    Rubbish.

    Oh yah, and the damage model is garbage as well, almost everything requires multiple rounds.

    No surprise there mind you, I'm sure it's 'skill based' bahahahahahahahahahaha.
     
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  9. DocStrangelove

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    Yes. Go into main menu -> story -> save game. Took me a day to realize that. :D

    Btw the game is simply amazing once you get the hang of all the micromanaging stuff. I've been playing like 12 hours a day since the 26th and i'm only at 50% story progression.
    The controls are really tough to master esp in combat situations.
    There are HIDDEN controls though you only come across by accident it seems:

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    This list was compiled by a lovely Reddit user of the name u/Cloud_Motion and some other reddit users! Hats off to them.

    • Holding start brings up the map straight away.
    • Holding circle/B in a menu/shop catalogue lets you exit straight away
    • Double tapping L1/LB lets you do a cool trick when you put away your gun
    • Holding R2/RT lightly allows you to draw into deadeye
    • Pressing up with a gun in your hand allows you to shoot into the air to scare predators away
    • Tapping left on the d-pad brings up a task list of requests, hunting challenges etc
    • Holding down lets you have quick-access to radar options (expanded, normal, compass, off)
    • Likewise, pressing down quickly brings up information on the screen if the map is off etc. Great for them full screen immersions!
    • If you press x/A in time with your horse's gallops, you won't use as much stamina, this apparently also works when Arthur is on foot
    • Waypoints can be enabled from the settings, I'm pretty sure they're disabled by default? Which is odd (Display settings)
    • Toggle to run in the settings lets you just tap x/A once to keep running (still have to tap to sprint) *If you keep x/A held whilst going into the cinematic camera view, you don't need to hold run anymore, and with a waypoint active, your horse will follow the route
    • Using the ledger in camp, after Dutch's tent has been upgraded (might be worth doing this early since more people begin to contribute), Arthur's tent can be upgraded to enable fast travel ($260)
    • The lasso is great and can be used for a multitude of things
    • You can lasso witnesses without losing honour/being caught
    • Lassoing large animals lets you keep them in place and get in close for a (albeit pretty brutal) knife kill without damaging the animal
    • Pressing down whilst in first person will enable iron sights
    • Crouching whilst crawling up a steep incline may help with grip and stop Arthur from falling over
    • If you steal a carriage, train etc. You can just whistle your horse and it will follow behind you
    • Holding triangle whilst on your horse will hitch up anywhere, even into the ground or a tree
    • Running into someone and pressing triangle will tackle them to the ground
    • Courtesy of u/phantomsignal "... if no one's mentioned this you can sell Legendary Buck Antlers for a trinket that improves the quality of pelt of animals you skin. Super helpful! I'm not 100% the mechanics of it, but looked like it would improve a pelt but one quality level. One good pelt would be perfect. The Legendary Buck is NW of strawberry next to an Indian Burial ground." (Fences sell the trinket, like the one in Saint Denis)
    • You can interact with mirrors by pressing L2+o (LT+B), thanks u/dj4y_94
    • "Check the chimneys", u/DavyJones317
    • You can hold square/X to continually loot things from cupboards etc. (thanks u/DoStuffAndStuff)
    • You can lasso animals that are dead in rivers and bring them towards you by holding R2/RT (u/Jinghy)
    • You can start a fist fight if you have a bounty and let the police arrest you by surrendering to have your bounty go away, but you will lose all your money (spend it first) (u/benedictxxii)
    • A dark red X after shooting someone means that their wound is fatal and they will die soon, usually accompanied by a very good animation (u/English_American)
    • You can equip a pocket watch from your satchel/buy one from the shop and access it from your inventory in the camera/binocular slot. Great for immersion!
    • Dynamite/Gunshots can be used on lockboxes to open them if you don't have a lockbreaker yet. Make sure to get rid of the horses first or they may run off (u/standingfierce)
    • Eagle eye can be used to locate items in the environment as well, like plants etc (u/longpantsman18)
    • "If anyone is trying to figure out the horse perks from bonding with your horse; RB + X from a stand still will rear your horse and it seems to get you into a gallop faster. Horse drifting is holding X while moving LT left or right and helps for dodging trees, rocks, or making wide turns. RB + A is great for stopping on a dime and making sharp turns. To get the drifting like the gameplay video, you actually dont need to drift with X. Get a little bit of speed going (tap A a couple times) and then use LT to spin in a circle. Your horse's back end will kick out like youre doing donuts and then choose a direction to peel out with your horse. No benefit really, but looks tight." (u/PsijicMonkey)
    • Not sure if anyone put this yet, but if you punch someone with the lasso equipped, you instantly hog tie them. (u/mattwisconsin)
    • You can hold triangle/Y to rest on the spot, if you're not on your horse and craft etc. This also raises stamina a bit
    • Left on dpad while ads switches shoulder aim.
    • Arthur grabs to most ledges. (Jumping rooftops in St Denise feels great.)
    • Full masks work better than the half bandana.
    • Running up to someone with a weapon and pressing RT/R2 activates a kill shot animation. Works with lasso to skip the throw. Works also after a tackle.
    • Activating dead eye when reloading skips animations. (u/OneManDrinkingGames)
    • Pressing square/X whilst aiming lets you dive and it's really cool (u/HighViscosityLuv)
    • Hold right next to the horse to see its cargo, this stuff also automatically appears in the shop menu as long as your horse is close
    • You can have an additional horse follow you around on your house for extra hunting storage (pelts/carcasses) just highlight a tamed horse and ask it to follow you (u/peg4sus)
    • This one might be obvious but don't be afraid to drop your guns in order to pick up new ones if you find them, your old guns can be retrieved from your saddle just like your hat. (u/bluebox_breaks)
    • I really like the fishing but if you don’t or you’re in a rush you can just shoot the fish. Haven’t tried it but I’m guessing dynamite probably works too. (u/KingOfTheHillBanana)
    • Hold X/A to continually craft ammunition at the campfire. It skips most of the animation (u/Greenmanssky) As a note, you can craft split points easily and they do more damage
    • You can fire from the hip by tapping R2 without holding L2, bit more inaccurate but useful in a bind and faster
    • You can carry multiple skins on the back of your horse (u/Pretty_Sharp)
    • You can recall your horse from a stable (u/TunnelVisions_3) also "If you end up in the middle of nowhere without your horse: save and reload it will be teleported near you." (u/algent)
    • "Wearing a mask is not always enough to hide your identity, if you're known in town people may be able to identify you from your clothing, your horse, or your custom weapons. Set up a "crime outfit" and don't wear it while you're out being a law-abiding citizen!" (u/standingfierce)
    • Press square/X for more customisation options
    • You can store multiple outfits on your horse and access them with L1 while near it
    • Sell all of your canned food supplies and instead cook and stow meat from your campfire. Venison and Beef give great benefits, it's easy to come by, and you won't clog up your satchel with a bunch of canned corn. (u/ChickerWings)
    • Throwing all the hair info out here, if anyone wants it. Everything is straight from strategy guide.
    • Hair tonic doubles growth rate, stackable (×4, x8)
    • Hair tonic lasts up to two stages of hair growth
    • You can only grow one increment at a time before needing a screen fade (sleeping, respawning, fast travel, cut scenes, etc.) Hair pomade applied by barber lasts 5 in game days (2 if done yourself)
    • Hair doesn't grow past stage 7, beard goes to 10
    • Beard stops growing without tonic at stage 6
     
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  10. Damien_Azreal

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    One issue with that image....
    Rockstar didn't develop Max Payne 1 and 2. They only ported them to consoles. So... Remedy and 3DRealms did all the heavy lifting on those two.
     
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  11. KissSh0t

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    Yeah, and I remember Bungie making Oni.... I just figured Rockstar must have had some involvement.
     
  12. drandiiski

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    The save system is .. well not to my liking, to put it lightly. That “save game” option is almost useless. First of all half of the time it is locked out, because there is something going on, even if you don’t see it. Second it does not really save you progress, right there and then. Reloading will not put you back in that exact spot in space and time! If you die or mess up, you can’t just reload that save you made 5mins ago and retry!

    I’m trying not to be too annoyed by it, and to play the game like they obviously intended to, bearing the consequences of your actions. But they need to explain that better and not just put an option right there, that says “save game”, when it doesn’t actually do that.

    I can complain a bit more about the controls and some open worldness jank, but whatever… Overall I’m enjoying the game and I do like that you need to take things slow. Be careful of your actions, don’t take too many risks and so on. Also some might find it tedious, but I really enjoy riding to my next destination for a variety of reasons.
     
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    Wife's had enough PS4 sharing and insisted we buy a second PS4 (went for the Pro/RDR2 bundle), they broke the mould when they made her!
     
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    Guys, if you have the PS4 Pro, please report blurry gameplay to Rockstar support. Of course you'll get standard copied answers from a KB which has nothing to do with the problem but if you endure, they'll forward it to 2nd line support. I know they know about this but the louder we are, the better they'll hopefully fix it. There is a huge thread about the matter here : https://www.rdr2.org/forums/topic/1170-rdr2-graphics-blurry-ps4-pro/

    Glad to hear that I'm not the only one hating this system. It's so weird that if the bounty hunters kill me once...they bounty should be lifted. Why the feck isn't it? So in theory they can kill you over and over until you're broke...and what happens then? Also, you as a player can only get bounty for a bad guy once so why isn't it different for the NPCs? I sure hope they change it in the next patch.
     
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    I have tried to get into it, but finding it a real struggle to do so. Perhaps its because i am too used to the GTA5 online of rush straight into the action?

    Think i need to sink a few hours into it this weekend to make my mind up. Starting to regret getting the Ultimate edition.....

    Hopefully online will be here soon.
     

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    Is it still too blurry with Antialiasing disabled? i though that disabling this fixed the blurriness.
     
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    Oh right, well as long as it is not as bad a GTAIV. lol

    I assume it will be like the first, which i personally never really had any issue with, when your going into a tough mission find the closest safe house to said mission and just save manually at it, plus that allows you to change your outfit to suit said mission and gain any benefits from said outfit in said mission, and that seemed to work ok, so i assume they will have the same thing in RDR2.
     
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    You mean the "Supersampling" option in the PS settings? I cannot even toggle it and it says that it's used for resolutions below 2K and that my TV does not support it.
     
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    Supersampling makes it blurrier. For some reason
     

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