RDNA2 RX6000 Series Owners Thread, Tests, Mods, BIOS & Tweaks !

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  1. Undying

    Undying Ancient Guru

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    Still no sign of 6800s here in Serbia i think it really needs few more weeks and even then its questionable who will able to get one. Ampere is getting some more availability but prices are insane. frack!
     
  2. PrEzi

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    As I've said --- the availability of the 6800-series cards should improve from week to week, and definitely should be better after the second half of December.... however due to just crazy demand (plus that NV is not able to deliver as much as they have promised) the general availability will still be scarce so don't expect the cards to just lay on the shelfs waiting for a buyer, rather the other way around...
     
  3. Goiur

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    Not even close of the FE MSRP... lol feelsbadman
     
  4. OnnA

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    Ah EFF ME and all of us in my region! They just posted 6800s here and look at these EFFING USD prices and they castrated it with 8GB!!!

    DESCRIPTION PRICE
    SAPPHIRE AMD RX 6800 8GB GDDR6 645 USD
    GIGABYTE AMD RX 6800 Gaming OC 16GB GDDR6 722 USD
    SAPPHIRE AMD RX 6800XT 8GB GDDR6 722 USD
    SAPPHIRE AMD RX 6800 NITRO+ OC 8GB GDDR6 735 USD
    SAPPHIRE AMD RX 6800XT NITRO+ OCSE 8GB GDDR6 864 USD

    EFF you retailers!
     
  6. PrEzi

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    uuuhhh,,, I believe it is an error on their side... I don't remember an 8GB version in any of the announcements .... definitely an error on how the retailer listed the product... both 6800 and 6800xt come with 16GB RAM.
     
  7. OnnA

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    Yeah that's some f-up on their side, no 8 GB versions exist, all are 16 GB.
     
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    Yeah... but funny enough more people were able to snag a 6800 or xt reference designs versus an non-existing 3080 founders edition (except in leather jackets hands and some youtubers that is) ...
     

  11. AsiJu

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    Heh, true!

    Besides I can wait no problem.
     
  12. Astyanax

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    DLSS is not upscaling, so you're already wrong at the fundamentals of the subject,

    DMLSS and DLSS are image substitution techniques and antialiasing.


    Originally the DLSS substitutions were awkward at certain resolutions because only particular resolutions were being trained and inadequate training passes were performed, the model used in 2.0 takes input from the game as well as many other sources to significantly improve quality at all supported resolutions, unfortunately without.


     
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  13. Ryu5uzaku

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    He isn't wrong. DLSS isn't simple upscaling as it does other things too but it is still upscaling tech...
     
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  14. Astyanax

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    its an interpolator, not an upscaler, the image is not being put through a rescaler in real time, unlike you would see with an emulator scaling up and creating pixels to clear an image.

    the learned image is done on high resolution samples, the only low resolution samples are for vector training, to improve the clarity when in motion.

    Which any of you would know if you actually looked at the tech papers or did any sort of model training. :rolleyes:
     
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  15. PrEzi

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    It doesn't make sense to argue with the above one... as some people just can't accept valid arguments and will defend the green one to the death.... Even though AsiJu is basically right --- you have an more complex upscaling (call it image reconstruction, interpolator or even mickey mouse) under a fancier name. Taking a lower res image, pushing it through some more or less complicated adaptive algorithms and as end result getting an image in a higher resolution (in hopes that it is similar in quality to a natively rendered one with comparable filters applied afterwards like sharpen, contrast etc.)
     
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  16. Astyanax

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    I'd argue if it was DML SS as well, its got nothing to do with amd or nvidia, you're just too brainwashed by brand politics to conceive defense for something isn't an attack on another or that one brand has a feature set or default setting behaviors that the other doesn't. You poor deluded fanatic.
     
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    First of all -- thanks on calling us "deluded fanatics". Have reported this one and the passive aggression and trolling altogether.
    Second - this is an RX6800 series owners thread, so what are you doing here? Cheering everyone up or - rather - on every occasion trying your very poor and weak trolling attempts? And not only in this section but all the other AMD threads too.
    Appreciate your honest answer, or - on second thought - maybe not.
    Good night.
     
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  18. Astyanax

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    Don't bother the mods when you've been baiting the entire time, they'll throw you a warning first.

    Funfact:

    1> thread titles don't prevent others from chiming.
    2> I've got 6800 series chips on backorder to start selling (and building systems with) in Au (that we won't be seeing for months yet because AMD mislead and botched the launch).
    3>
     
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  19. Ryu5uzaku

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    Calling it an interpolator is simplifying it even more. How is upscaling such a scary word. As per reconstructing higher resolution picture out of multiple lower res to achieve upscaled crisp image close to native rendering or better. Interpolation normally lacks detail dlss gives anyway.

    It's nearly perfect way to do AA as long as it's the 2.0...
     
  20. Astyanax

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    Because an upscaler can't create detail that isn't there to begin with it just expands pixel coverage based on nearest colours in a perceivedly destructive manner.

    DLSS on the other hand can and has done so in atleast one of the games its used in.

    You're thinking of classic linear interpolation or one of its derivatives, DLSS is more akin to Polynomial Interpolation via bilinear, bicubic or even spline techniques that are Neural based.
     
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