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Razer Launches the Sila Gaming Grade Wi-Fi Router

Discussion in 'Frontpage news' started by Hilbert Hagedoorn, Oct 3, 2018.

  1. Hilbert Hagedoorn

    Hilbert Hagedoorn Don Vito Corleone Staff Member

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    Razer announced the Razer Sila, a high-performance WiFi router designed for home users requiring WiFi service optimized for high-performance gaming, streaming and downloading multimedia content. ...

    Razer Launches the Sila Gaming Grade Wi-Fi Router
     
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    D-Link inside ?
     
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    kapu Ancient Guru

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    Never buy anything from razer. Thank me later
     
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    Fox2232 Ancient Guru

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    I bought Razer Destructor. Likely best mousepad ever made. Lasted for some years. Ate quite a few mouse sliders.
    But surface of Destructor got destroyed in process... became flat, therefore it lost its almost friction free properties.

    Yes, you pushed your mouse a bit and it continued to move beyond expectations. I have never seen any mousepad like that after. But I had adequate sliders on mouse too.

    So, they definitely make some good products. Maybe not at nice price. And not as durable as one would expect.
     

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    Neo Cyrus Ancient Guru

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    Hard not to when there's sometimes few options out there if you want a specific type of gaming peripheral.

    But yeah, in general I agree it's definitely best to avoid Razer, and that's coming from someone who has owned many of their products. $250 USD for their shitty router is beyond a joke.
     
  6. PrMinisterGR

    PrMinisterGR Ancient Guru

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    Lol no.
    Get a small computer like this, install OpenWRT on it. If you need more than one wired connections, use a good switch like this. Since the whole antenna system is modular, you can attach whatever kind of antenna you like, even an extender cable.
    Use it with SQM and cake/piece of cake QoS, you will feel like you got an upgraded connection. No more timeouts when there are heavy downloads in the background, no more Skype/Discord distortions when there are a lot of clients on your network. You can effectively treat your network connection as a pipe, where using its bandwidth does not affect latency any more. If you feel brave, put a Qualcomm adapter like this and enjoy WiFi with an order of magnitude lower latency.

    The whole system is also unbrickable, and that Intel CPU is so much faster than any kind of crap you might find in a modern router. You can also keep it safely upgraded and change settings via a very nice web interface, while others cry for not having firmware updates for the latest hack.

    The total cost of everything I linked is 260 euros, 40 euro cheaper than the Razer box and infinitely better in every possible aspect.
     
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    Thanks. I might give it a go just for fun. Looks like a good setup.
     
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  8. JamesSneed

    JamesSneed Master Guru

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    Do you think if I made a gaming grade lawn mower it would sell well?
     
  9. holler

    holler Master Guru

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    you wouldn't be the first:

     
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    this actually looks like a decent bit of kit and price isn't too outrageous but I have a hard time trusting any of these mainstream companies to have not incorporated backdoors or other unwanted code
     

  11. Agent-A01

    Agent-A01 Ancient Guru

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    Better off buying something like an Edgerouter-4(or cheaper USG) + an access point for simplicity and performance.
     
  12. GenClaymore

    GenClaymore Ancient Guru

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    That can't be worth $249 dollars, looks more like it should be around $80 dollars or even that.Such an inflated price. But then again that seems to be razer thing, besides heavy PR marketing.

    I have an Asus RT-1900P which besides also supporting OpenWRT too, it also has far more functions then what razer is trying to sell at an inflated price, and I paid about $75 Refurbished and was in new cond. from newegg.
     
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    Actually, no. The Edgerouter is fine as long as your connection speeds are not that high, after that its hardware can't keep up with cake. It also does not include any wireless component or any kind of internal expandability, it is a ton slower than an x86 box, and you have to rely on EdgeOS to get drivers and schedulers. As far as I am aware, it doesn't include cake by default, you have to compile it in and flash it, correct me if I am wrong. OpenWRT has all of that baked in already, and more importantly it has the make wifi fast project drivers in already.

    For that kind of money it's better to get a Linksys WRT 1900ACS. You just need to flash it with the official release firmware, and it has everything. It doesn't have the make wifi fast project driver (which unfortunately only works with most Atheros chips for now), but it has everything else, and flashing it is a completely plug and play experience. It even has a recovery partition.
     
  14. Agent-A01

    Agent-A01 Ancient Guru

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    Have you actually used one?

    I have no problems with gigabit speeds with an edgerouter 4, unifi security gateway(cheaper one) can also reach 1GB/s symmetrical upload/download in my testing; yes, that is WAN to LAN speeds with offloading enabled.

    If you disable hardware offloading or use certain things that can't use it(QOS, bonding, etc) it will be limited of course, but in my testing of ER-4, I saw speeds of around 400-500MB/s.
    Most home users won't be needing special features like those anyways, nor do they have access to gigabit internet.
    As for edgerouters, they are usable out-of-the-box.

    You only would want/need to upgrade the firmware which is pretty simple, just select the file on your local PC via the Web UI and it will update automatically.

    Unifi devices have to be adopted through software on a local PC or cloud device but that's pretty simple too.
    Both are very easy to setup and navigate, which is good for a home user.


    As for them being slower, not necessarily true.
    Packet handling is much faster on either of those devices than a cheap homebuilt x86 due to native offloading for packet processing.
    They can offload traffic like DPI(packet inspection), NAT, PPPoE, IPsec etc.

    Gamers wanting lowest latency will be better off with edgerouter for sure.

    Yes, a well-bult x86 potentially has the capability of much higher throughput but it will be latency-bound in comparison and is well beyond the average user's needs.

    And for Linksys WRT, it will not compare to an edgerouter(features or speed) plus Unifi AC-AP access point.

    Enterprise APs just run circles around home routers built-in APs regarding throughput, latency, and range.

    As for CAKE, I don't see the point.

    Unifi/Edgerouter has very good software doing the same thing.
     
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    You don't see the point of Cake? Lol?

    The whole point of Openwrt is that you get an open platform with the latest in IO by far. I still don't get what you want to say here. If you don't grasp the point of keeping latencies low in networking, I don't understand what this discussion is about.

    There is nothing like Cake. What the Edge routers have is an fq_codel implementation, which is the previous algorithm from the same people who made cake. You are making my point for me there in the end.

    Check bufferbloat.net and you'll see what I mean.
     

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    Nice specs for a "prosumer" wifi router....and i wouldn't mind playing with one, but can build yourself a better router for similar money...depending on what you do for wireless. As for my 2 cents on openwrt, i use it on an itx system as a router for a client that wanted to use openconnect for vpn.....used engenius eap1300ext for AP's, and man that wifi really screams. Not the least complex option, and not the cheapest when you really do it up right, but openwrt is slick with nice hardware.
     

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