Radeon Software Crimson ReLive Edition 17.9.2 Download & Discussion

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  1. LocoDiceGR

    LocoDiceGR Master Guru

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    Radeon Software Crimson ReLive Edition 17.9.2 Highlights


    Support For

    • Radeon RX Vega Series
      • Up to 2x Multi GPU support
    • Project CARS 2™
      • Multi GPU profile support added
    Fixed Issues

    • Hearts of Iron IV™ may experience a system hang when the campaign scenario is launched.
    • Radeon Software may display an erroneous "1603 Error" after installing Radeon Software. This error will not affect your Radeon Software installation.
    Known Issues

    • The drop-down option to enable Enhanced Sync may be missing in Radeon Settings on Radeon RX Vega Series Graphics Products. A clean install of Radeon Software can prevent this issue.
    • Unstable Radeon WattMan profiles may not be restored to default after a system hang. A workaround is to launch Radeon WattMan after reboot and restore settings to default.
    • Radeon Settings may nor populate game profiles after Radeon Software's initial install.
    • Overwatch™ may experience a random or intermittent hang on some system configurations.
    • GPU Scaling may fail to work on some DirectX®11 applications.
    • Secondary displays may show corruption or green screen when the display/system enters sleep or hibernate with content playing.
    • Bezel compensation in mixed mode Eyefinity cannot be applied.
    • When recording with Radeon ReLive on Radeon RX Vega Series graphics products GPU usage and clocks may remain in high states.

    Its sad there are only 2 fixes... :eek:
     
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  2. JonasBeckman

    JonasBeckman Ancient Guru

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    So poking around the XML dump of this driver as per what I tend to try to do and list for new AMD driver updates shows these changes this time: :)

    Driver version is 17.30.1091 up from 17.30.1081 dated September 18th compared to September 5th.

    For Crossfire we have these changes.
    Call of Duty Black Ops 3 was updated.
    For Honor was updated.
    Project Cars 2 was updated.

    PUBG or Player Unknown's Battle Grounds was added.

    For DXX there's a profile for "Mixed Reality" and it looks as such.


    Not too much this month, main thing was obviously Vega Crossfire support.

    Also comparing the INF itself and assuming it's a bug it looks like the Turbo Sync / Enhanced Sync property is missing(?) from the Vega GPU settings in 17.9.2 so that could possibly be why there's a known issue listing enhanced sync as possibly missing from CNext in this driver and a clean driver install as the recommended for seeing if it comes back. :)

    17.9.2
    17.9.1
    I think ECC refers to color settings of some sort so both might be valid, only T-Sync was replaced by ECC in 17.9.2 instead of having both properties but I don't know for sure, still it might be enough to add it in manually in the registry and rebooting and it might be back after that. :)
     
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    IIRC PCars1 (a gameworks title) suffered a lot on AMD cards (and even some older gen NV cards) when many objects were on screen like grass, probably a draw calls limitation on top of maxwell optimization. Ian pointed that the graphics engine has some 80% new code for efficiency, so I wonder how decently AMD cards will run it this time.
     
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    Thank you for fixing the 0xc0000005 access violation Pale Moon crash AMD! Once again, excellent job and keep it up. You rock!
     

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    WTF are you even trying to say?
     
  6. big ROBOT bill

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    Who cares if it's WHQL
     
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    You don't have a clue.
     
  8. Romulus_ut3

    Romulus_ut3 Master Guru

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    WHQL drivers are the same Beta drivers that gets pushed out but comes with an added signing/certificate from Microsoft, and most of the time these WHQL releases are older drivers compared to the latest Beta and might have fixes missing due to the fact that this whole signing process involves time and money. WHQL doesn't necessarily make drivers bulletproof or "full/complete" as you're implying.
     
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    Only difference between a "whql" driver and a "non-whql" driver is that the whql driver has the " this isn't going to crash on 99% of systems under 99% of circumstances, we're pretty sure" offical mircrosoft stamp of the approval, which doesn't mean much.

    All of the drivers are signed through the msdn dev portal these days, can't even permanently install an unsigned driver for normal usage on a fresh install of 64bit windows 10. (link)
     
  10. LocoDiceGR

    LocoDiceGR Master Guru

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    WHQL & Beta drivers = the same thing. Period. Move on...
     
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    Need popcorn
     
  12. OnnA

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    There are 3 kinds of Drivers on ATI side:
    1. Beta driver (More buggy than usuall)
    2. Pre-WHQL driver (Less Buggy and very good driver)
    3 WHQL Mature Driver (Best Driver with signature)
    ==
    WHQL always have better Termals & needs less v to run:
    Non-WHQL = 1120/550 1.218v +12POW
    WHQL = 1120/550 1.212v +12POW
    On my Test Runs in 3Dmark 13.

    :D Also with ATI, WHQL actually means something ;)
     
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    Adored just make this one ;)
    ATI have better drivers overall -> PERIOD :p


     
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  14. Romulus_ut3

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    From the aforementioned image, you can see that the current optional driver (read: BETA) is 17.9.2
    And the current (read: Suggested) driver is the older 17.7.2 which comes with the WHQL certification.

    WHQL stands for Windows Hardware Quality Labs which is a Microsoft procedure for certifying that the hardware for peripherals and other components is compatible (works as expected) with Microsoft Windows operating systems. WHQL provides test kits to third-party developers so that they can test their product's compatibility. If a peripheral (read: in this case a Graphics card) comes with drivers which are not WHQL certified, upon attempting to installing such drivers, you may receive a warning message that the driver for it is not signed, and in some cases you might be barred from installing that driver altogether. This WHQL certification process takes time, therefore there's a good chance that by the time a driver is approved by the WHQL testing, a newer Beta drivers could be available as can be seen above.

    WHQL drivers assure that these won't go blam!!1!!Icrashed!!1!! once you boot into your OS and has stable functionality whereas the Beta drivers can come with all sorts of problems. (It may not be necessarily the case always but Beta means pre-release and there's room for improvement)

    The current 17.7.2 WHQL drivers came out as 17.7.2 Beta first and there's essentially no difference between the WHQL and Beta release of the 17.7.2 drivers apart from the signing. There may have been subtle fixes pushed but none of it was mentioned in the change logs, and as for someone who has updated from 17.7.2 Beta to WHQL I can tell you this from experience that they are exactly the same. You don't see every Beta driver released get the WHQL certification because

    • It may not be as stable to have pass the WHQL testing, or
    • The process involves royalties which is why AMD doesn't bother.

    AMD's next WHQL release, once approved, could be 17.9.2 if they wish for it to get signed by Microsoft, but by the time they do that, something like 17.10.1 or 17.11.1 could be the latest Beta available which will contain updated profiles for games that the WHQL drivers will lack.


    I hope you'll not continue to argue and make this more embarrassing for yourself any further. Unlike the other members, I at least tried explaining it to you as we all come here to share our experiences and learn. The least you can do is do a bit of research for yourself before brazenly disregard everything that the others are saying.
     
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    most of the time we do get minor incremental changes from the last beta, largely the same, maybe an optimization for a game or too added, they don't always release their internal version.

    however this is not always the case.

    as an example 17.2.1 was first released as an optional update (non-whql), then later re released as whql , both packages are near 100% identical bar maybe a few bug fixes and installer package changes, they even share the same release notes.

    http://support.amd.com/en-us/download/desktop/previous?os=Windows 10 - 64 take a gander, this has happened more than once.

    a better way to track driver versions in amds driver is to check the internal ATI driver version number usually listed at the top of the INF, or by checking the file versions.

    number at the top of the inf looks like this 16.60.2011-170210a-311199C-ATI usually.
     

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    This is not a proof thread. Make a new thread. move on.
     
  17. Passus

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    And we have a new contender for the whiniest member competition I see haha

    I will give these a go for PUBG, 17.9.1 have been been great on all the games I play so hopefully 17.9.2 should not be too different
     
  18. Hilbert Hagedoorn

    Hilbert Hagedoorn Don Vito Corleone Staff Member

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    Very spammy behavior freakyfreaky,

    There are many situations where AMD released a Beta driver only to re-release it as WHQL a few weeks later. WHQL is nothing more than a Microsoft signing certification where the driver is tested and validated matching MS criteria. There will be very little but often no change in-between the two builds.

    Re-live is the new name for the driver, and was introduced with the optional recording suite. Ergo, the drivers these days are called AMD Radeon Software Crimson ReLive.

    I think the weird and irritated discussion now needs to end, and I would suggest you'd listen. You're not talking to a bunch of newbies here, most and wise guru3d forum regulars have been around longer in these forums than what seems to be your age.

    EDIT: User removed.
     
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  19. Romulus_ut3

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    Edited. Not necessary anymore. Hilbert provided the answers while I was typing the post.
     
  20. N0bodyOfTheGoat

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    Woohoo, a pCARS2 profile on release day!

    Although I have to say that it runs a lot better than pCARS1 with 17.9.1 and other drivers over recent months. Even 2560x1440 is very playable with the default graphics settings, in pCARS1 I had to drop to 1080p.
     

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