Radeon Software Crimson ReLive 17.5.1 driver download & Discussion

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  1. PrMinisterGR

    PrMinisterGR Ancient Guru

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    One of the greatest pieces of bullsh*t ever written in this forum. Congrats! :nerd:

    You can say that they are rushing their drivers, but that current AMD drivers are getting worse is like a bad joke. Almost as if you don't have a clue about what you're talking about. :infinity:
     
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    Can you imagine how bad NV Land would be without the nice programmer making NVIDIA Inspector? Just saying. :)
     
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    Depends a little. They haven't *consistantly* gone done, meaning they aren't simply on a path trending downward. But my personal experience with them is that they took a SHARP dive when they introduce the ReLive drivers. I switched back to AMD about 4 years ago with the 7950 and my experience had gotten better over time, much better driver-wise, up until late last year. They had gotten better and better until 16.12.1.

    Even after approximately 6 months now, the 16.11.5 drivers are more stable for me than any ReLive drivers. The good news is that they've been getting more stable than the very first ReLive drivers, which were an incredible mess for me. Which is why I think it would be false to claim that the drivers quality is going down, when I believe it has been going up for the past 5 months. It simply felt as if every driver previously made the experience slightly better, then they took a HUGE dive, and now we're catching up to what we used to have.

    Either way, that user saying that the drivers "took the way down" is very much true if talking about a temporary dive. It's false if talking about a permanent dive.
     
  4. Romulus_ut3

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    There's a lot of hatred for the nvidia products in this section of the forum. But nvidia's drivers doesn't mess up basic features like switching between different clock states as necessary. Something AMD has gotten wrong for some time now. First it was the GCN 1.0 cards and then GCN 1.1 cards.

    Playing older games like Assassin's Creed, Mass Effect Trilogy, Need For Speed, Crysis etc. is a much better experience on nvidia cards than AMD. AMD's GPUs have far worse frametimes resulting in worse gameplay experience compared to nvidia's specially when equipped with less capable CPUs.
     

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    the open source community is still waiting for dual source blending to work properly on AMD hardware.
     
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    The cause of my Wolfenstein NO crashed on desktop with 17.5.1 was enabling Triple Buffering in Radeon Settings.
     
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    Final nail in the coffin for me. Had to run ME:A on a single gpu. Busy selling my 295x2 and bought 1080ti seahawk x. Sorry team red I'm out.
     
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    And... GameWorks gets another win.

    Seriously though, I don't expect anything to work in GameWorks titles, I just avoid them and wait until they're dirt cheap.
     
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    What delusional land are you from.

    Don't pass those drugs you are taking around here.

    Seriously, you are one blind ignorant shill if you do not think nvidia has or had clock problems or drivers break features.

    Nvidia is still a POS when it comes to HDTV scaling.
    Explain to me why my 8400 gs can scale to my HDTV with zero tweaks, but my GTX 650ti, 9800GTX, or GTX 570 can not.

    Ill say this one time TDR issue. Never had that BS with AMD. It was a damn nightmare with my GTX 670s, GTX 970s, and still have it happen sometimes on my server with a GTX 650tiboost.

    I have many gpus from both sides from many generations. I have them hanging up on the wall. I have computers running different OS that I test them on out of boredom and fun and some things still dont change.

    I have actually had more problems with nvidia drivers then AMD drivers.
    Nvidia drivers are easier to use before crimson and relive came out.
    Its total bs how damn laggy and slow Nvidia control panel is on a 550mb read SSD when applying settings but AMD control panel loads almost instantly on the same drive doing the same thing.

    Nvidia still have not fixed the 2560x1080 DVI issue with windows 10, but that works perfectly on AMD drivers on even my old HD 5770.

    Both sides have problems. Always will. Its annoying as hell when someone acts like Nvidia is problem free and AMD is garbage. Their drives have come along damn way since 2013. Especially since Crimson came out.
    It even bugs when people act like AMD drivers are perfect and say only Nvidia drivers are garbage.

    I hate fanboys period.
     

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    "Nvidia is still a POS when it comes to HDTV scaling.
    Explain to me why my 8400 gs can scale to my HDTV with zero tweaks, but my GTX 650ti, 9800GTX, or GTX 570 can not."

    Curious as to what problems you're having...I also mirror to an HDTV for movies, etc, and havent had any issues with doing so for either my Nvidia or AMD setups for as long as I can remember.

    Bear in mind though, I'm using a 1080p 60hz computer monitor and a 1080p 60hz TV.
     
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    Pretty similar situation here--- 2 290x(s) 8gb models, still waiting for Vega. Single 290x just doesnt cut it for this game, even with tessellation turned down to 8x, so there must be some other issue going on here.

    I know someone below suggested Gameworks, but would that *really* have any effect on the obvious texture loading bugs for AMD cards? I know Gameworks saturates tessellation, but I've never seen an issue with texture loading, just overall lower framerates before AMD truly updates their drivers (or you manually lower tessellation in the AMD Settings Panel).

    That these drivers were released with a CFX profile leads me to believe that they were tested/developed on a ME:A build that never saw the public light of day, because I cant imagine anybody would think this is "working".
     
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    :eek3: Wow, this myth still exists?

    Frametimes are comparable since 2014 (that famous TechReport article) and every trustworthy tech side is testing frametimes in HW reviews today. Just check some reviews and stop spreading this misinformation.
     
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    Weird, on my 7870 radeon aditional settings doesn't open (a message saying that it can't be started there's nothing available to configure in there pops), while on my rx480 it opens with the few remaining options.

    Edit: Btw, regarding the UVD bug, there's some hope it might end up fixed: link
     
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    That UVD bug is weird. I never experienced it on my previous Windows install 7 -> 8.1 -> 10. I did however experience it once, shortly after doing a fresh CU install. I don't think my PC was properly configured (latest C++ redistributables, custom power plan, tweaks etc.). I haven't seen it since.
     
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    Vsync on in some older games might not put enough load on the gpu to keep constant clocks, if the gpu/mem clocks change often the game might not feel fluid (it depends a lot on the quality of the stuff used to build that particular gpu so it can vary from model to model from manufacturer to manufacturer).

    Some people have reasons to keep vsync on:
    - like they use GCN 1.0
    - like they see the tearing and it's annoying/distracting for them

    I have no clue what actually AMD has done with drivers past 16.7.2, until UVD bug will actually be fixed I won't update the drivers.
     
  18. PrMinisterGR

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    It's not a myth. Newer drivers have improved it, but it's quite real.

    The crime here is that AMD isn't implementing enforceable vsync modes/triple buffering, and that they don't allow Chill (which is a surprisingly decent frame limiter) to work with everything. These are literally the only two features their driver lacks.
     
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    Not sure about the rest, but AC Black Flag ran like dog turd on my pc ~two months ago, even at 1080p.
     
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    TBH, I have never understood how somebody can crank up the details on their games, then leave vsync off to tear up all those pretty textures. I cant stand it---and up until freesync/gsync it was double/triple buffering nightmares.
     

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