Spoiler: Click at your own risk, Don't wish to derail the thread further. That's the problem with people who are overly "devoted" to the cause, they never seem to get the whole picture. People who "trusted" in AMD and purchased the Fury X (dubbed as the Overclocker's dream) over the GTX 980 Ti are having a splendid time playing newer games with performance similar to the cheaper GTX 980 (even at the level of the R7 370 in one isolated case) for example. Spoiler: R9 Fury Owners, don't click this. It's safe to assume that you're talking about me. First and foremost, I am not complaining about the quick fix we've gotten, in fact it's a step in the right direction and I applaud it wholeheartedly. However, what I am taking an issue with is some people who are downplaying the role of the tech journalists and media who brought the issue to AMD's attention, and if it hadn't been for them, this quick fix wouldn't have been pushed out. I have no hatred for AMD, in fact quite the opposite, I love their hardware and have supported them from the year 2001 and have defended them from misconception to great lengths, too. I also use nvidia's hardware, I have no bias when it comes to manufacturers and I buy the best product that I can afford which I believe will serve my purpose. But I also understand at the same time, some people who are more "devoted" to AMD doesn't like it when someone points out the irrefutable flaws in their support and PR, and then start telling people to do things like "Go buy nvidia." And that's how exactly consumers with legitimate issues are pushed around, ignored and are slowly converted from red to green. The market share statistics speak for themselves, and this is one of the key reasons even when AMD has a better product out than it's competition, people are skeptical about them and will simply purchase from their competition. I have not once said that AMD isn't going to fix this in my other thread, but what I have done is speculate what the outcome will be if AMD doesn't fix this. I wouldn't have bothered if I didn't care about AMD, and as you say, hate 'em. But you on the other hand have said: What do you know, Crysis, a game which is exactly a decade old looks better than some of today's games. And I won't get into discussing how some of the older games are better when it comes to gameplay as it's subjective. And please, for the love of God, don't assume everyone believes in God. You, sir, are probably the only person in this thread who is level headed, I thank you for your valuable opinion. Whenever people say something about AMD improving their relation with consumers as in customer support, point out flaws that they overlook for months, it seems to upset some people. But they aren't too different from "me" when they find themselves in the short end of the stick which I will get to in a bit. You've been an inspiration to me as I have looked up to you over the years in this regard, in this very section of the forum. The difference is, I actually own or have access to various range of hardware from both AMD and nvidia at the same time, at home and work, whereas you.. only wear the Green jacket.. I am not sure what's the epitome of being overblown; Me, criticizing terrible customer support and pointing towards definite flaws just to point out that AMD isn't the "good guy underdog company" as some overly devoted and equally ignorant consumers make them out to be and believe that things should stay that way, or someone who claims that has never had any problems with drivers from either camp. (Psst: there is a known issues and list of fixes with each release!) But I take it that you are speaking from your own experience, and you're correct. Though I'd correct the "i havent had any problems at all, same with NVIDIA" statement to "i havent had any problems at all, same with NVIDIA for my own use-case."Let's move on to discussing drivers, shall we? And if you find my posts to be hateful, irrelevant, spammy, then please go ahead and use the "Report" button and I am sure a mod can make quick work of me.