@LocoDiceGR Late tomorrow I bet, before 1/10 Breakpoint early access launch and a whole week after 23/9 whql driver, it seems a legit thought. @Undying Fury was against 980 and it loses, Fury X was against 980ti and it loses, 390 was against 970 and it loses. That's why Fury X beats 980 and 390X beats 970. Simple truth. No magic, no fine wine. The difference stayed where it is by the years more or less. The same happened with RX580 you cannot call it 1060gtx competitor because it already had a competitor RX480, which lost the battle VS 1060, no finewineTM saved the day. Of-course there are optimized games like DX12 and vulkan that turn the tables. But DX11 is the king still.