Radeon RX 6800 XT performs half as good compared to RTX 3080 in Vulkan Ray Tracing tests

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  1. Hilbert Hagedoorn

    Hilbert Hagedoorn Don Vito Corleone Staff Member

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  2. Undying

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    Performance sucks on both of them.
     
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    The RX 6000 series' lack of RT performance is a bit of a mystery. It really seems like AMD was aiming at barely beating/matching the first generation Nvidia RT, despite the huge criticism back in the day about Turing RT being next to useless in practice. AMD specifically didn't include ray tracing in the 5000 series because they didn't feel like they were ready for it. Didn't AMD seriously anticipate Nvidia overhauling the ray tracing performance in the Ampere architecture? It's puzzling.
     
  4. Clawedge

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    Thats fine, i like most people do not care about this gimmick anyway.
     
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    This is AMD's first attempt at RT. No surprises here for me . I wonder how it looks compared to the first generation RT from NV. Nevertheless RT sucks on both of them. Without cheating with DLSS even NV 30 series sucks. IMO RT is great but for the future :)
     
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    I'm going to skip this generation out. Not going to pay scalping prices for unpar RT performance. That was my requirement to upgrade the GPU.

    Wait for 4080Ti or 7800XTX next year for more performance at half of current costs.
     
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    Double current costs, no doubt.
     
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    RT is not a thing for this generation. My friend has 3060Ti and he disabled RT in cyberpunk because he said it looks worse than enabled. Also dlss makes game blurry, so big quality loss there.
     
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    It might be interesting to see how it would fare compared to the 2080 Ti or Super also. That would give a better idea on the nvidia side of gains.
     
  10. cucaulay malkin

    cucaulay malkin Ancient Guru

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    no it sucks on one
    40 fps and 78 fps are not equally bad

    but I'm not really surprised.I would be if it didn't suck.
    in more demanding RT scenarios (3-4 effects used) 6800xt loses to 3060ti
    if you're surprised to see it give up completely with a fully path traced games then you haven't been following the reviews

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    Yes exacly , we compared also some shots inside buldings and we decided RT OFF looks better , some scenes are too "bright" with RT ON, but its' matter of opinion , problem is RT makes FPS Drop to 40-50 Fps (3060Ti , its not trash GPU , close to 3070 overclocked) . , and DLSS makes game blurry , so you are left without options.
     
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    cucaulay malkin Ancient Guru

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    no,you're left with a full array of options,pick whatever you like
     
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    I was refering to 20 year old quake 2 with some shiny walls that 1000euro 3080 pulls 36fps so yeah it sucks.
     
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    IN my book im left without any option becasue RT ON makes performance trash even at 1080p, and DLSS makes picture blurry (DLSS quality preset) . So RT no thank You :)
     
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    how is q2 rtx 20 years old ? we've only had the first path traced game last year

    lol
    so play without them

    did you know it's an option ?
     

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    Maybe im wrong. I though i played quake 2 as a child.

    Didnt had the shiny walls though. ;)
     
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    Developed by Nvidia, its good that they even enabled it work other vendors.. make it for general universal api..
     
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    Pretty much as expected. I don't think there was anyone out there who expected AMD to match nVidia's RT performance. Though I wonder if the performance can be improved through driver improvements.

    I'm more interested in AMD's response to DLSS.
     
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    Is not that you can just decide to do 4 times faster than the first generation of your competitor....
    Some stuff is eventually hard to do and requires more research.
     
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    I think AMD simply wasn´t expecting Nvidia to release cards with dedicated hardware for RT. Maybe the 6000 were not supposed to have RT but after Nvidia´s launch they couldn´t affor not to have it, so they added RT support as goos as they could to match Nvidia, knowing that performance was going to be much worse.

    No problem for me but for many RT is already important so it´s up to AMD to recover the lost ground to Nvidia.
     

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