Radeon RX 6700 XT would have a starting price of 479 USD and see better availability

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  1. alanm

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    Initial reports were the entire 5nm capacity: https://www.extremetech.com/computing/315186-apple-books-tsmcs-entire-5nm-production-capability
    A few weeks later it seems to have become 80% of the production: https://wccftech.com/apple-secured-80-tsmc-5nm-production-capacity-2021/
     
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    I wouldn't hold my breath for better availability. On the left side we have the miners hungry for cards, on the right side we have scalpers selling cards even before they get offloaded from the boat.
    I'd love to upgrade my GPU to something like a RX 6600/6500 but I don't know if I'll have even a reason to be mad about rising MSRP when the card is instantly out of stock.
     
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    It's not about changing hobbies. As long as we have enemies among our community, buying hardware just because they can, I will not be like them. I keep my job as engineer but I will abolish my PC gamer identity. I feel ashamed like a miner does.
     

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    Of course you are right. Is it 10% more expensive? Or maybe 8% or maybe only 5%?
    Also, this applies to virtually every refresh of the lineup of every vendor.

    What I tried to imply, and in the context obviously not well worded enough for you to understand:
    Prices are rising. And everybody does it. No surprise here, and yes AMD does it too. Reasons for that, that's where you can see differences. But eventually, even AMD cards get more expensive.
     
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    Right, I forgot about linux support. It must be because linux support mainly comes from 3rd party and they are actually doing better job then AMD...
     
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    3D Graphics used to be medium for telling stories.

    RIP nVidia's reason for entering graphics business.

    Like 20% more expensive. Possibly more.
    You may notice that while GDDR6 chips with 1GB capacity reach 18Gbps, 2GB chips do only 16Gbps.
    Double capacity at 16Gbps does not double the price when 1GB 16Gbps is standard mass produced product. And 2GB chips at 16Gbps is top tier product.

    It is reasonable to say that 12GB capacity on 6700XT costs more than 50% extra over 8GB which 5700XT has.
    Chip itself is again quite more expensive on 6700XT than on 5700XT.

    Remind me about your position on this each time nVidia puts out financials.
    https://www.macrotrends.net/stocks/stock-comparison?s=gross-margin&axis=single&comp=NVDA:AMD
    I tend to believe that you know math behind. And that if nVidia reduces price they ask for goods they produce by 30%, they'll still have higher Gross Margin than AMD.
     
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    Still had to get into GTA V and thats another year of content. Than I have Vaporum RPG, Black Mesa, Amnesia and 10s of older FPS games etc.. its just like I wont be playing RDR2, Horizon Zero Dawn and thats it. Still... my belowed 970 must hold on for another year or Im bust. And if so? Than be it.
     
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    This is like the worst nightmare, which will never ends... Intel will do the same? 350-400+ for 1060gtx level performance? Maybe Elon Musk can save us all. Hold on!
     
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    I think prices was a bit more reasonable, just saying you do not get your money worth ATM and if this keeps happening people will not afford to buy a decent GPU without spending a small fortune! This is killing PC gaming and I personally was going to upgrade this year before all this ridiculous pricing. But if you are willing to pay premium prices for sub-par performance. That is your choice besides RX5700 was still reasonably prices last year not sure of the Vega 56, but even that was not available for long and was replace very quickly.

    Games in general try and cater for the lowest denominator so that they can make more sales, this is also holding back some great development in gaming as people do not upgrade sooner...
     
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    You still don't get what I was saying.
     
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    I can ensure you that I get it. And while AMD put quite some premium on 5700 XT. They have smaller profit margin from 6700 XT due to component cost. But it is entirely possible that profit in absolute numbers is same.
    I just did not agree with notion that manufacturing of card costs just 5~10% more.
     
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    Apparently new keeps changing. Missed this in Guru News:
    https://www.guru3d.com/news_story/apple_claims_half_of_tsmc_5nm_production_capacity_for_2021.html
     
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    i.e., if they "would have" been available they "would have" cost $479
    if they "would have" replaced the words "would have" with "will have" we would be happier.

    fingers crossed we get to see them @479
     
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    Looks like thats TSMC modus operandi from now on. Whoever bids highest gets the bigger share of production.
     
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    Actually, it is open source Mesa drivers from AMD but hey, hate whatever you hate and you do you...... :)
     
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    You said it yourself, open source... You should know what that means.

    Why would I hate AMD for not fixing their stuff? The only thing I could get from it is to use drivers that are not 10+ months old and have some bugs fixed on my secondary low power system. I can live with bugs on these old drivers just fine.
    I don't have to hate AMD, I can simply ignore existence of their GPUs. AMD drivers are unreliable, otherwise AMD would at least try to fix serious issues they made asap.
     

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