Radeon HD 7970 GHz edition review [Guru3D.com]

That's your opinion and ofc ur entitled to it, but remember... it's just an opinion, not fact and should treated as such....

You stated the review was botched and insinuated that Hilbert deliberately omitted data in order to mislead, neither of which is true.
Not really a great first post...obviously some people are going to get a little agitated.

Anyway....moving right along.......:3eyes:

 

Good improvement from AMD there. I'm fairly happy with my "standard" edition cards. They clock to 1050 at stock voltage with no issues.

 

HardOCP had similar performance results too.

 

Well TY TY! Extremely interesting answer!! That is excactly what I wanted to hear and it's really weird that there has never been a remark from Hilbert on this front. I hope he gets aggetated reading this because I feel weird too when I read over and over again that the 3 monitor show is still not running @guru3d's. You just gave me some sort of explanation for this kinda weird situation. gpu's with 3 GB of memory are ready for 3x2560x1600 with 4x msaa in most situations and guru3d keeps benching 19x12 and very few cards on 2560x1600.

Let me arouse you with a thought:
The previous generation HD6xxx was also the winner of the pack because it owned the VRAM lacking GF5xx series in high reso's with aa enabled. Even with 2 580's there is no anti aliasing on 3 displays...think about that.

This gen maybe again the AMD cards are the best when looking at all reso's alltogether.... Now why doesn't Hilbert investigate that? And if he decides otherwise, why doesn't he tell us why he doesn't?

Let me tell you it's awesome when 1 card drivers 3 displays. No tearing probs (if connected the same 3 times) so..the real question is: which card can do that at 60fps...or which one comes closest to date?

or??????

 

I'm sorry for pissing ppl off. I just wanted to get response on this. It's not something that i made up today. I don't get it why the shiny shiny reviews at guru3d's always lack the high reso part. The fact that it's not tested is a disadvantage for the reds and that needs to be explained.

I understand that this new radeon 1ghz edition card isn't much new and maybe even a bad card because of it's noisy character. I just wanted to try to get an answer on the method of benching that is not entirely fair in my pov.

My cup of tea is either 3240x1920 or 1920x1080....it depends on the game...3 monitor gaming can be magnificent so pls stop ignoring it.

try f1 2010 with 3 displays in portrait (and a G27 wheel or better)...it's awesome and runs @50fps with all ultra except for shadows at high and 4xmsaa on 1 hd6950 2GB card. The game uses the entire 2 GB and the feeling is truelyso much better than whatever computer with a smaller field of view...

peach dudes...

 

I understand that this new radeon 1ghz edition card isn't much new and maybe even a bad card because of it's noisy character.

My cup of tea is either 3240x1920 or 1920x1080....it depends on the game...3 monitor gaming can be magnificent so pls stop ignoring it.

try f1 2010 with 3 displays in portrait (and a G27 wheel or better)...it's awesome and runs @50fps with all ultra except for shadows at high and 4xmsaa on 1 hd6950 2GB card. The game uses the entire 2 GB and the feeling is truel so much better than whatever computer with a smaller field of view...

I'm not a fanboy:
Even though I tell you all that I think the GTX670 most likeley to be my next videocard if I will buy one from this generation...mostly for the different aa methods and for the professional looks of the cards..not for the drivers since the catalysts work just fine when used correctly

 

If you ever bothered to read Hilberts reviews you'd see he benches at the following resolutions; 1280x1024, 1600x1200, 1920x1200 and 2560x1600 as per below, pretty common stuff overall with 1280x1024 thrown in for kicks.

Most people don't give a crap about Eyefinity benchmarks because most people don't use it.
If however you want to see a test done where unrealistic resolutions and settings are applied, then just head on over to [H] where you'll feel right at home.

The other thing I don't get is why u are complaining about no "3x2560x1600 with 4x msaa" results when
a) nobody could run a game decently at those settings using a single card and
b) you are using a single 6950 so clearly aren't interested in gaming at that res anyway, cuz if you were - u'd be running CF setup.

No, this is just rubbish and shows you don't really look at G3D or other reviews at all.
The 6xxx did NOT "own" the 5 series ever. Have a look at comparisons between the 5870 & 6970, mostly the 5870 is equal to 6970, THEN look at the 5970 which is actually FASTER.

Why should he? He doesn't, and that's all the matters I'm sure....

Head on over to HardOCP if you wanna know and ask them...

 

Noticed that too, pretty much every 7970 I've seen easily hits 1200 with far less voltage. The review card must've been a dud overclocker.

 

Yeah wasn't impressed to be honest. Maybe hilbert got a dud, cause they are shipping 7970 at 4 different voltages, 1.175, 1.112, 1.075 and something else can't remember. Cause at 1125/1575 I am running 1.168 and 1200 I run at 1.225. So either AMD is just giving to much voltage for 1050 or that one was a dud.

 

Nice review, any chance you could bench BF3 on the 7970 and 680 with MSAA off ? It would be good to see the performance hit MSAA has on those cards.

 

Nice review, boss. As usual
Thanks!

First blood

 

What a clumsy poster this Pierre Bierre guy. A very sneaky way to get banned as well. I like the more direct approach of insulting another member, has succeeded me twice in the past

:banana:

On topic, another great review. My 24 inch 1920x1200 screen died earlier this year and all my games have been running smoothly as it gets on a 22 inch 1680x1050 with my current HD 6850. BUT we all know that ''settling for less'' is not for the hardcore G3Ders. So definitly looking at the current lineup and wondering what upcomming game is this game made for? I haven't seen really any upcomming title with beastly GPU requirements. Regardless, this is a contender on the GPU I might be buying.

Noise level, temperatures and perf/$ ratio seem good. It only beats the GTX 680's VANTAGE P score by a few points which is really cute (IT MATTERS OK!!!!). Though I might wait for my friends to buy a current generation card for me to buy one myself

 

The power consumption, heat and noise, is a non issue imo, as remember the 480.

 

I will add something to the discussion... you will not see this cooler on the 7970 Ghz edition on the market....

All cards send to reviewers was made by AMD and send by AMD...

it seems as all AIB have allready there own design cooler ready, they will directly use them on their respective 7970gh model.

The 7970 and the new one are completely identical (at all level, including physical, thermal and electrical qualification ), they allready produce thoses coolers.. so they have no reason to dont do it.. ( and competition wise between brand, this is far better as this let them directly differentiate their products )

http://techreport.com/articles.x/23150/1

Some other reviewer and D. Bauman on Beyond 3D have notice it too.


A last thing to know is the 12.7 beta include the DTE allready for old cards too.. It will not make work the actual 7970 with the PT Boost.. but this could in case of overclocking open some better clock .

 

If you're interested in BF3 performance, Nvidia wins. I originally had a 7970, but I returned it for a GTX 670 because I could not put up with the inductor buzzing. I've found that the GTX 670 performs better than 7970 in BF3, so the GTX 680 will easily beat the 7970 in all cases.

I should add that my settings are 1920x1080 Ultra settings, 4x msaa.

 

Yeah they aint going to be reference cooled these, all are customs

 

Couldnt see the point in the boost clock either, just seems they wanted to copy NVIDIA and im not a fan of the boost clock thingy either.....when i want the card to do 1250mhz i want it to do 1250mhz all the time , not up, down,up,down, oh wait up, oh no hang on down again FS

 

I hope Nvidia ditches this crap next time. Or at the very least lets us over ride it with our own settings. I have a feeling that the system they have now has less to do about increased performance than it does with reducing RMAs.