Discussion in 'Frontpage news' started by Guru3D News, Jan 6, 2012.
What is crap ?
The 7970 of course
I See, and why do you think so ?
Care to explain, or are we being left to assume you posted that insightful and well reasoned comment just to add a little extra heat to this thread?
Afaik this new GPU overclocks like a dream. Runs pretty darn cool on the reference design and is the single fastest GPU on the planet. With LN cooling world records are being smashed, not broken, but smashed.
So please explain why are they crap?
Smells like a troll to me but i'd like to hear some rational explanation .
It's a discussion , if you say something is bad etc you should give us some arguments if not, why post ?
or a sarcastic joke, his first replay was about someone loling at AMD or something like that
Yes im joking, as everyone has been slating them since the reviews came out
AMD drivers are fine even for multi-gpu and I can attest that. People forget that there are too many shtty console ports.
Fine is ok, but i'm sure they could be better, even AMD have admitted that.
Unfortunately i've worked out i can only spare about $350-400, so no 7970 for me, would of fallen back onto the 7950 no bother, but that won't be out until later on, and i will be leaving the US on the 16th, and no doubt arrive back to inflated UK prices.
You say there great when it comes to multi gpu and so do other people say there good,other people say there not so good regarding multi gpu,stuttering,profiles,Anti aliasing issues etc,im not trying to add fuel to the fire here im just confused on the ATI drivers and have been for sometime.
I know that nvidia drivers aint perfect but you hear alot more problems coming from ATI,i really want to try AMD as there cards are great its just the damn drivers and profile fixes/breaks i keep hearing.
Ok 4 questions i have....
Do they stutter in multi-gpu?
Whats the score with anti aliasing?
When amd release a new driver for games/profile does it mess up other games that were ok before the fix?
Have you ever owned an nvidia card recently so you can compare the stutter if there is any?
I did go around to my friends house and played bf3 at the time of release on a 6970 and i didnt see any stutter at all,it was perfectly ok,what about multi gpu....?
Micro stuttering when using any multigpu config regardless of brand is subjective. Some people dont ever see it, others do. Its also never a problem if you run vsync or at least in my case that is what ive found with both 4850 and 5850 crossfire, the main annoyance for me is screen tearing with multigpu which is significantly worse with dual cards over a single gpu. But again this is nullified upon enabling vsync.
For me, this is my rule, always play with vsync enabled whenever possible and your games will look and play beautifully. Some say vsync introduces input lag but i dunno, maybe because ive always had vsync enabled ive always been used to it? I cant recall getting any input lag playing any ganes in the past 3 years running crossfire.
Amds crossfire profiles are generally fine, but theres always occassions where things arent quite right. Flickering textures mainly are a telltale sign of crossfire not working properly. As of late you can create custom profiles for any game so in most cases with a little tinkering you can get your games running as intended.
Crossfire is for someone who likes to mess with settings, crank up settings - crossfire users should all know the consequences of running a more elaborate system, of course things arent gunna work all the time - its more complicated - but you should also know amd isnt the only one with multigpu issues.
But lets be honest here - you slap a turbo on your car to get the extra boost. Sure, the boost is there, its exciting, thrilling even...but your engine is under more stress and heat now and since its more complicated you know more things can go wrong...but what the hey, i want some freakin boost right?
The views in this post are completely my opinion based upon the real experieces ive had running crossfire over the years. Other users may flame and moan about how bad crossfire is and they may have a valid reason(s) for this, but in what ive experienced with the 4k and 5k series when running crossfire, ill be doing it again with my next upgrade. Maybe im just lucky perhaps, maybe ive been lucky twice hehe. Just the user has to like playing with their system, im one of those. If your not then i suggest you get the most powerful single gpu you can afford and have some hassle free, plug and play gaming.
i have tried both brands AMD and Nvidia. But for now im sticking with Nvidia. Why you ask ?. Well i just have a cousin who is running AMD in his system and he bitches to me a lot about problems he has with games and drivers. I get feedback from him. LOL. Also i have encountered driver problems as well, back in the days when i was running 4890's CF. im no fanboy its just my preference after what i had experienced.
4890 ? sounds like 3 generations ago. Kinda.. long time.
Your cousin ? wow he must be real tech geek, i mean whole forums doesn't matter at all, your cousin knows better
You know my Voodoo 5 didn't scale too good either and had problem with the drivers, really ..
Dude, why? these type of posts are getting very common on Guru and annoying to read. Snide remarks, poinltess replies just to put the other person down or to ridicule or just to make them look like an idiot. I can see what he was talking about is opinion as he stated from HIS experience, can't you just leave it at that? Sorry
EDIT: That was not just for you Kapu yours was just the latest one.
TBH, it's that attitude that kinda puts me off getting an AMD GPU.
If anything goes wrong, too many people get defensive.
I've saw too many cases of people getting called liars and/or fools, and if your a former Nvidia user, you even less likely to have a complaint taken seriously.
Since this has turned into a pie-throwing contest I'll say that I've had far more trouble with Nvidia drivers. I could replicate BSOD with Ntune over and over again.
And with many cards it has been necessary to bake it in the oven to make it functioning again. Plus of course coilwhining, which I've never had problems with Ati cards.
On the plus side Nvidia default coolers have a bit more often been quieter, but I change them anyway.
On topic: Excellent overclocking!
I so want one of these puppies!! I hope Arctic Cooling release a VR kit for the excellent Accelero Xtreme Plus cooler so I can slap that on there and OC one of these babies my self :devil:
I will have 2~4 of these soon! Just gonna wait for a revision or 2 so i can really oc da crap outa it!
Is 1.3v the maximum voltage that can be set using software?
... or to rephrase that, does it require a hardware mod to go above 1.3v?
305W with Furmark? Sounds like the OCP is kicking in. Can you try something else like Unigine Heaven or Crysis 2 DX11+Ultra? 1.3V and a 353Mhz OC should draw far more power than just 305W.
You can unlock Afterburner to do as much as you want with a special modded version of it. It's for LN2 OCing though.