Hey guys, So right now I have the Radeon HD 4850 and was wondering how much better is the GTS450 and the Radeon HD 5770? Which one is the better buy? The GTS450 or the Radeon HD 5770. I'm eyeing this card just 'cuz it comes with the $45 MIR. http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130572 Ideas? Thanks, deltatux
hmm, maybe look around a bit more? over here, we dont have a mail in rebate, but over here, the 768mb gtx460 are around $30 more than the gt450s, and the difference in performance is quite dramatic (196cuda cores vs 336).
GTS 450 can be up to 30+% faster than HD 4850. But in some cases the difference is only few %. 5770 is faster than 450 in most benchmarks, but not all. Depending on a specific game, feature, or what ever.. either one might turn as an ok upgrade, as well as neither. But as "Sever" already mentioned. 460 or 6850 would be a much better choice.
I know they are obviously better ... so I guess I should just skip this sale and wait until the prices for the GTX460/Radeon HD 6850 to drop a bit more? deltatux
yeah, i would assume that there may be a price drop for the 460s and 470s if the 560/570 launches in a few weeks, but this is just an assumption.
Up to you. The 5770 is a great performer. If you can get one that cheap, why not then? Its up to you, and your budget, how much you are willing to spend to get said performance gain. If you end up ebaying your 4850 card though you will probably get like 55 bucks for it easy, so you can always do that to put down even more cash on a new card. Even the 4830 cards still fetch around $45-50 used, so I doubt you will have much of any problem selling your 4850 at all. Geforce 460 wise, you can check this card out too, as it has a rebate offer going on it too. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127519
Only the US NewEgg is offering a free game. The Canadian version doesn't offer any freebies. deltatux
in our place, its just recently that the fermi GF104 cards price drop have taken effect, its now toe to toe in pricing vs the HD 6850. I originally planned to get the GTS 450 as well because of the power requirements, but considered the HD 6850 as well since it consumes almost the same power as the 450 but with much better performance, however, ive recently upgraded my PSU so power is no longer that much of a concern for me and im now choosing between the GTX 460 1GB and HD 6850, in which recently are in aggressive pricing competition in our place My other parts would bottleneck either card though lol, doesnt matter ill just carry out the other upgrade next time...
Don't even bother upgrading if those are your only options. Both of those cards are too weak for actual DX 11 gaming. You would be disappointed with the performance increase anyway, the "percent improvement" people throw around is always made up. In this case it MIGHT be 15% faster. Not worth it.
if comin from a 8600GT or GT 220/HD 2600 perhaps the HD 5770 and GTS 450 would still be a good option, but the HD 4850 is not very far behind the GTS 450 and even the 5770 so not really worth it. The HD 5770 is mostly faster except for some situations where the GTS 450 matches it (450 targets the 5750 anyway). 250 and 450 are almost on par, sometimes the 450 is faster sometimes its slower, depending on the game, mostly shader heavy ones tend to prefer the 450, and despite having a 128bit and low badnwidth of the 450 it cans still go on par with the 250 even at max aa and af. New PSU? i think your current OCZ SXS can still handle the 6850 nad 460. (as for the 460, it requires 2 pci-e 6 pin not sure if the 500W of SXS has 2)
Since I'm the only one who mentioned "percent improvement". You must be talking about me. So What exactly did I make up ???
You don't need a new PSU for either, my 630W handles my power sucking 470 based system with plenty of room to spare. The 5770 is actually slower than the 4850 in some games due to the nerfed architecture. It's really not an upgrade at all. The 450 isn't really either, it's almost exactly the same speed as a 5750, which itself is minutely faster than a 4850. If I were you Delta I'd just wait till you have more money. Even upgrading to a 6850/460 card you might not really be that impressed. Even I wasn't really that impressed going from my 4850 to my 470. Sure it's a lot faster, but apart from tacking on ridiculous AA levels it didn't make games really play any better. Then again I only play the same games these days, that probably has something to do with it.
I actually wasn't, I just keep seeing that 30% figure all the time when comparing cards at this level. It's really just not accurate lol. I dislike using a percentage to compare video cards.
Not at all. You're mixing 4870 with 4850. 5770 is faster than 4850 in every benchmark. 450 also is ( not that the difference is worth mentioning, in some cases ). ok.
No, I'm not. There were several games when the 4850 was a few fps faster than the 5770. Look at the original benchmarks. I always thought the 5770 was a rather poor card, since it costed more than a 4870 and yet performed worse in most cases.
@ice445: no, HD 5770 is in the HD 4870 and GTX 260 league, usually slower or a bit faster at times but mostly better than the HD 4850 (and even better on newer games, thanks to the updated architecture of the juniper), id agree about the GTS 450 not much faster than the HD 4850 though. Nerfed? yeah, the HD 5770 is a midrange card afterall so its nerfed from the original architecture, but even still its still in the close trail of the former high ends. Just like what the GeForce 6600GT and 7600GT/X1650XT did to their high end elders. The improvement in performance usually depends on the user if he/she wants a radical amount of gain from his current setup. Replaced friends' GT 240 1gb GDDR3 card with a GTS 450 and he has a large smile on his face.
