I meant with its bandwidth, also with higher compute units count - it will be better in direct compute. 980 vs 780ti is nothing special though now 980 vs GM200 will be something else.
I don't know if overclock3d is a reliable source of information or not (don't really follow it), but they mentioned in their review of the 285 today that they're expecting an "R9 285X" later this month which will be a "full Tonga". (Something that even I can't say without it sounding rude, and I am a *very* boring person). If AMD are trying to clear stock, then maybe they'll announce / release just after Black Friday to avoid affecting sales. But I'm not American nor very familiar with the graphics card market so this is just me hypothesizing based on a 285X appearing this month. That would mean they could have it out there ready for Christmas.
AMD’s Radeon R9 390X ‘Fiji XT’ May Feature 4096 SPs, Extreme Memory Bandwidth Source :- http://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/anton-shilov/amds-radeon-r9-390x-fiji-xt-may-feature-4096-sps-extreme-memory-bandwidth/
This really reads as if AMD could pack a punch to the 290X that Nvidia has to match first, then surpass Sounds like good times for the consumers if the environment is shaken by this.
After hearing more info sounds like the 390x is becoming more of a beast of a card. All AMD needs to do is improve the reference cooling.
Memory bandwidth doesnt matter, we are limited by shader performance in the top cards. I know the memory controllers dont even hit 50% on my card
:bang: :bang: :bang: :bang: WHY didn't I buy a graphics card three months ago when I was planning to? I'd have a 290 now and I'd be happy with it. Totally happy. Instead I waited and now I can't buy one because the new one is just four months away. But I need one now. I am trapped! So trapped. :/
You and me man. Same situation here, altough I have a much much lower budget. Highest expectation I have is the GTX 960.
But faster memory will bring data quicker to gpu to process it sooner also speedup antialiasing, your cpu/system ram bandwidth isn't always 100% utilized either and it still benefits if its faster. Ie Alien Isolation benchmark, max fps - when it loads elements of the benchmark (streaming scenario) 780 @ 300gb/s max 359.4fps 2x 980 with 240gb/s? max 317.4fps , single ~227fps
you must have been listening that guy who said: wait for new AMD GPUs, and if they turn out great - buy. If not, then don't buy and you also get to keep your money. He also said that's a win-win situation. Then how come you are in lose-lose situation right now :infinity: even if new GPUs turn out great, you still have to wait in despair.
Bought my 290 tri-x three months ago and I ****ing love it, and I totally won't feel bad about replacing it with a 390 tri-x
^ This. We all know how bad AMD is when it gets to latency (memory access). With CPUs it matters more than with GPUs, but I am pretty sure lower latency helps GPUs in many things. Compute is one of them. But My guess is that low latency of main video memory may reduce requirements for caches. And cache misses will not be as much taxing as till now. Edit: And my guess for 390x price is between 700 and 900$ unless they manage to reduce transistor count per CU/TMU/ROP.
Well you see some people look at what they have and are happy. Some people look at what they don't have and are unhappy. And some people look at what they can't have and are angry. I'm the middle kind. Buy now, buy later, I'll still be staring at the next thing and wanting that.
Today I was wondering about something: Those new GPUs, would they actually be able to utilize more than PCIe 2.0x16 / PCIe 3.0x8? Or is that new magic memory only fast good 'inside' the graphics card, as in only in communicating with the GPU itself?
You think you got it bad. I'm still using a 5870. Honestly though it's really not that bad, It only sucks for me because I was running at 1920x1080 when i first put the pc together but now im running at 2560x1600 and the 5870 can't do it so I end up running games at non native 1920x1200. It's not optimal but I kinda blew my entire tech budget for the year on a 3000 dollar 55 inch LG OLED set so I have no choice but to wait. It is going to be a very interesting time, will the 390x be the best buy or will gm200/210 be the best buy. There is no way for any of us to know so all the assuming and arguing is pointless. I will use amd or nvidia I am not loyal to 1 brand. Whoever makes the best performing card when price/power consumption/heat/noise/graphics performance/secondary features is taken all together that is the card i will buy. When the 5870 was released nvidia had the gtx 480 out and with all factors considered I felt the 5870 was the better buy. Before the 5870 I had the lovely 7900 GTO with bios flashed to turn it into a 7900 GTX. That was one of the best deals back in the day, was like over 100 dollars cheaper for the same exact card once you flashed it. Point being, give me the best performing card when the whole picture is looked at I could care less what company makes it.
