Quad Users, will you upgrade to Thuban X6?

Discussion in 'Processors and motherboards AMD' started by C4ampere, Feb 8, 2010.

  1. Eaglewolf4237

    Eaglewolf4237 Member Guru

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    you might not want to buy the hexa core right away,like the phenom bug and how the cpu is better and much improved with PII.
     
  2. frizbee

    frizbee Member Guru

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    I feel like I'm on lets make a deal... will you keep what you got, or take what's under box #2? I need details before I make a decision.
     
  3. deltatux

    deltatux Ancient Guru

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    Thuban is based on K10.5 (Phenom II), so I don't know why you will "freak". Architecturally there aren't any major changes...

    deltatux
     
  4. CPC_RedDawn

    CPC_RedDawn Ancient Guru

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    Ah, will you be downgrading performance though? Do not forget that an i7 is a 4 core CPU with HT which adds another 4 logical cores and not physical. These are less powerful than a physical core. Also the 6 cores, being all physical, will be built on a 32nm process meaning lower TDP and vcore which means more room for overclocking.

    Not saying you should upgrade, as I have the same CPU and I am not going to upgrade now for quite some time to come maybe going to keep this CPU for another 2 years yet.
     

  5. deltatux

    deltatux Ancient Guru

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    Last check Thuban is 45nm as well while 32nm AMD processors won't arrive until 2011 when Bulldozer rolls in.

    Also, about that, yes, SMT isn't ideal in x86 due to its design. Issue is that if it runs any memory intensive applications, it will degrade performance as opposed to upgrading the experience. Hence, many software developers for these software recommends you disable SMT in these situations. The only multicore solution that works 100% of the time is SMP where you use multiple cores to do your work. Instead of multiple partition of a core to do it.

    deltatux
     
  6. IcE

    IcE Don Snow Staff Member

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    Nope. I'm now officially poor. Not to mention I doubt I'd see any real gains.
     
  7. ivan.winata

    ivan.winata Master Guru

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    I'd rather spend my money to upgrade GPU rather than my CPU at this moment
     
  8. DerSchniffles

    DerSchniffles Ancient Guru

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    Im goin for it. I was really hoping to unlock the 4th core on this proc but it didnt happen. I just want it for the light video encoding I do not to mention it would be double the cores I got now. Im down with that.
     
  9. phill1978

    phill1978 Master Guru

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    if its faster and great value then yes i will go for a 6core amd build as my new comp. overall saves money and looks cool on windows with 6 cores :D
     
  10. Xenotone

    Xenotone Master Guru

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    Any idea if they'll be backwards compatible with AM2+ boards like the x4 chips are? If the 32nm chips are really good overclockers then i'll certainly be tempted by them, even though it's a long time before we'll see any gaming benefits.
     

  11. Titan7170

    Titan7170 Member Guru

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    yup Ill be testing it out.........any game that uses 4 cores loses about half performance when I shut off 2 cores so quad is definitly a positive.......dont know why people insist on running on 2 core cpus? or say 2 is the same performance as 4.....because its not!
     
  12. 3T3RN4L

    3T3RN4L Master Guru

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    all i do is game so my set-up will last me a long time.it'll be a long time before 6 cores be used for games. 4 is bearly used really.

    only thing i might upgrade down the line is better headsets,headphones and soundcard, but my gpu and cpu will last me for some time now so i'm not too worried
     
  13. Covert

    Covert Maha Guru

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    i bought my Q6600 when it was first released and its only now that quads are really getting any use infact choosing the q6600 over the E6600 that everyone was telling me to get instead was the best move i could of made id of had to upgrad the E6600 ages ago :) , 6 cores is just for now a fashion item, but if i was to be upgrading now i would choose 6 cores over 4 yep.
     
  14. deltatux

    deltatux Ancient Guru

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    All I can say is that the consumer space software hasn't caught up with the numbers of cores that keep coming out. It's the first time in a long time that software fell behind hardware innovations. It used to be software pushing hardware, now it seems it's the other way around.

    deltatux
     
  15. Liranan

    Liranan Ancient Guru

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    I'm not really interested in Hexacore CPU's, especially as they will come at lower speeds. Hexacores are really interesting for (scientific) servers, nothing more.

    For us, gamers it's not really that relevant yet and for the average consumer, who don't even play games, they're even less important. Maybe with DX11 games more cores will matter but that will be a while and even then higher speeds will, probably, matter more than just more cores.

    And Hyper Threading is even less important. It adds absolutely nothing to gaming or the average PC use. In fact, it doesn't even add much to server use either, as the most powerful server (Cray) is an AMD Hexacore one. This is why AMD haven't added Hyper Threading to their CPU's, yet, and have never been that interested.
     

  16. xKrNMBoYx

    xKrNMBoYx Member Guru

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    I most likely will be purchasing the AMD "Thuban" Six-Core Processor.

    Why? My college major requires basically a workstation computer. I would rather go Desktop because it is much cheaper. Intel's 6 core will release earlier than AMD's but it will be 1k+ which is way out of my budget, while I could probably build a desktop with the thuban under a $1000 even with 16gb of ram probably.

    It will matter most if the thuban can have a close competition against a i7 (i'd prefer it to be better) than I would go with the thuban. Also being a AMD Fan it would be nice, but if the thuban cant exceed even an i7 920, then i'll build a i7 build so i can upgrade to a gulftown or better when i can make some money.

    I always like the ability to upgrade parts without having to switch motherboards, so it will be am3/am2+ thuban or a 1366 i7 920
     
  17. deltatux

    deltatux Ancient Guru

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    It depends what's your program. If you're in software engineering, then you don't even need a Core i7. Core i5 would probably do. Same with networking courses. However if it's something like media arts then probably an i7 is good but a hexacore is still not required.

    deltatux
     
  18. crushilista

    crushilista Ancient Guru

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    Why would you choose a overpriced 6 core, when quad cores are just now starting to be used in games? By the time 6 core is accepted, this processer will be long gone.
     
  19. xKrNMBoYx

    xKrNMBoYx Member Guru

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    true, but again the amd hexacore may be cheaper than the cheapest i7, and that would also be a whole new system build that would be cheaper
     
  20. GhostXL

    GhostXL Ancient Guru

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    Nobody said anything about over night, but DX 11 is out now. It's only a matter of time before more games use it.

    If someone is to build a new PC, Quad core is definitely recommended, as it doesn't cost much more in the long run.

    If money is a problem, there are great Phenom II quads to be had.

    It will make the road less rocky.
     

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