PS3 emulation on PS5 was possible - Sony wasn't interested

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  1. Hilbert Hagedoorn

    Hilbert Hagedoorn Don Vito Corleone Staff Member

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    WhiteLightning Don Illuminati Staff Member

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    This is a dumb decision , I am sure these kind of things will backfire. If streaming would work great, it would never be a problem, but it doesn't. There is always input lag.
     
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    Valken Ancient Guru

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    One day, someone will jail break the PS5... and PS5 emulation will come to PC in about 5 years running well.
     
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    cryohellinc Ancient Guru

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    I purchased some stuff for the office the other day and saw PS5 in our local store. The initial model. For 999 EUR.

    That made me laugh - I commented to the store staff that nobody would buy it for that speculative price in their sane mind. They started hissing at me and said that supply was low and I didn't understand anything. Had a nice giggle.

    The only thing that will make the PS5 platform compelling for me is that it will allow you to run PS3 games.
    I own a jailbroken PS3, which was delidded + a new custom fan + some air vent holes in the case + SSD drive + mClassic from Marseille to upscale the image.

    I absolutely love the fact that you can run PS1 / PS2 (practically all of them, as I don't have the PHAT model) and PS3 games with it. Such a fantastic video game generation. It's so sad that most of those games can be run only via emulation or with PS3.

    I don't get why Sony is so slow on this, as PS5 can run all of the PS3 games with an emulation. On top of that, only Sony can emulate them perfectly.

    But then again, PS3 emulation on PC is making leaps as well. The second PC emulation will be flawless, and PS5 will lose its potential appeal (to me, at least) as from the modern games, there are like 2-3 that are actually interesting. Rest is either on PC, or, well, trash.
     
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    Venix Ancient Guru

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    why would they ? they plan to resell most of the games ....for a 3rd time !
     
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    Horus-Anhur Ancient Guru

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    Emulation is a problem for those companies that want to sell remasters.
    Just look at GTA5. They managed to sell the same game on 3 generations of PlayStations.
     
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    Silva Ancient Guru

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    They are not interested in supporting older generation games because they want to sell those games (or newer ones) for the new console.
    Remember: companies don't make money selling hardware, they make money selling games and subscriptions.
     
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    Sony and Ninty now both have locked emulation behind a paywall at this point, and no one seems to have batted a eye, how did they sneak that by everyone. lol
     
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    TheDeeGee Ancient Guru

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    Is there any need for PS5 emulation, 95% of the games on recent consoles are ported to PC.

    And why would anyone want to play all the modern pay 2 win / NFT trash?
     
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    Ps3 emulation on PC is coming along so nicely why would I care about playing it on a locked down console with less graphics.
     

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    The majority of their customers are spineless.
     
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    emperorsfist Ancient Guru

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    This is sad, and is one of the reasons why I never transitioned from PC to a console. Backwards compatibility issues from Windows to Windows are still present (HW can cause problems too), but it's day and night compared to the closed-off systems most consoled have.
     
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    Valken Ancient Guru

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    Agree with you but Demon's Souls Remaster and other exclusives not on PC, yet. Loved the PS3 version but the PS5 version HOLY JEBUS!
     
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    i know more ppl with pc + console, than ppl with either or.

    how about +4 players together/at the same time?
    how many games can you play on 1 pc with split screen? right.

    regarding emu
    funny how a lot of ppl think that "work" is free.
    and they try to save on cost, not spend more, to get out of the red with Sony as mother company.

    reminds me of folks whining about the ads before movies, yet are perfectly fine with it,
    once they are asked if they are willing to pay "double", to watch just the movie (nothing before)...
     
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    Aside from what others have said about how Sony can't re-sell games, I suspect Lance doesn't know much about emulation. There are already PS3 emulators out there. The Cell processor is a complicated and vastly different architecture to the modified x86_64 arch they're using now. Same goes with the PS3's Nvidia GPU. It's very taxing to perform such translations. While Sony could definitely do a better job than these community-driven reverse-engineering projects, there's a lot that can go wrong. Even if Sony manages to make all games play, that doesn't mean they will play smoothly.

    It's relatively effortless to emulate PS1/PS2, but PS3, while technically possible, is not at all worth Sony's effort. I don't think including such an emulator would drive more sales, so, the ROI just isn't there.
     
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    I can kind of see why they wouldn't want to invest more money into emulation for PS3 titles after spending $380 million on purchasing Gaikai, would be nice to have it all emulated locally on one machine however.

    Glad I kept my old Fat PS3 with full emulation for PS1/PS2 titles.
     
  17. tsunami231

    tsunami231 Ancient Guru

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    sony never be interested in BC they always want use rebuy the games, instead being able to pop the disc on new system and play them. this one thing MS has done right.

    I have no instead in any thing cloud/streaming based and never will

    I wish mine didnt up and have BGA soilder failure that was causing system to ylod? other wise i would still have mine
     
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    And this is one of the main reasons I stopped buying consoles. Why waste money on something that will become paperweights the moment a new generation is released? With PC I keep being able to play it all.
     
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    tsunami231 Ancient Guru

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    No different then when Xbox decided for console players to play the game online they have to pay sub ? when on pc side it free, no one bated an eye then nor did when sony decided to do that same thing.

    Sony has never been intrested in BC especial if it gona cost money and time to get work... think only reason we have PS4 BC is cause PS5 and PS4 are same hardware architecture just faster for same reason pc games from 2 decades ago still run on current pc only way faster same architecture just faster
     
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