Prices Intel Coffee Lake Procs Are Skyrocketing due to 14nm shortages

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  1. Hilbert Hagedoorn

    Hilbert Hagedoorn Don Vito Corleone Staff Member

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    So AMD is having the best time of their life?
    Also is it me or the price increase is relative to sale volume? look i3 8100 and i5 8400 for example vs the low volume of the i7 8086K
     
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    Hilbert Hagedoorn Don Vito Corleone Staff Member

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    They seem less affected atm?
    I was checking out some prices when I wrote this article, the Ryzen 7 2700X Wraith Boxed Octa (8) core I can purchase at €319,-
     
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    I think that AMD only lowering prices as time goes by, and not seems to be affected.
    With the new prices that you have listed, the price gap between 8700K vs 2700X is almost 150 when adding cooler to 8700K.
    Edit- just did quick check on Amazon.de/uk/Com , there is indeed big price gap between them while Amazon.com is the cheapest, moreover they sell the 8086K for 339 Euro's while amazon.de sells for 504 Euro's!.
    https://www.amazon.de/Intel-Core-i7...s&ie=UTF8&qid=1537687590&sr=1-1&keywords=8086

    https://www.amazon.com/Intel-i7-808...&ie=UTF8&qid=1537687613&sr=1-1&keywords=8086k
     
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    stop making trash products with fake advertisements china SOL hueu

    how much money I save amd from them not producing that trash Athlon. could of got some extra copper on my ryzen cooler better some free cores to unlock wasted on usless 2006 cpu. Fan repurposed.
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    need to order china rgb ssd asap
     
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    This is ridiculous. Bringing non-K chip prices to level of "K" unlocked chips. They do not say that intel's fabs had troubles and reduced production.
    So it must be demand thing. Where is this new market which wants more intel's non-K than "K" CPUs? I doubt it is someone focusing on secure computing.

    To me, it looks like they are pricing it so close together based on wafer space used for production. And that intel does not give a damn about end user value.

    Conspiracy theory:
    - Artificially increased prices of PC components
    - in 5 years decline in PC market and rise in cloud computing
    - all "user" data are on cloud, and no longer yours. And subject of global evaluation.
     
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    There isn't enough production capacity in the world. That's of course a conscious decision. Just like OPEC limits oil production to drive the oil price up, the top semiconductor manufacturers limit production to keep the prices where they want them to be. It has been rather easy as the customer base is growing all the time, which means demand (when considering all the sectors) is ever growing. It's truly the most ridiculous sign of the current screwed up situation how GF can simply halt future technology development (7nm) entirely to concentrate on profiting from the current tech (14nm) as much as it can. As far as the manufacturers are concerned, it doesn't matter where the products go, as long as they go, homes, small business, server farms, doesn't matter. No conspiracies are required.
     
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    Depending on where you are... if you are sadly here the GPU are around 150/200 Euro more expensive than NVidia equivalent and if you really really need a Ryzen, it's like the lotery you have more chance to don't have it at all than having one (and no Amazon doesn't provide them here due to tax law, only official provider)... anyway it cost also like Intel CPU.
    It last like that since october... :(
     
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    Also cloud computing work more than fine, if you have unimportant things to do (strategic one should be kept inside the company) then if cost you less to do it in cloudcomputing than on own machine and at the same or faster speed (we have do simulation on period of 4 years and 8 years at work).

    About the non-k market demand, it is huge as 90% of the user will not OC their machine at all and so will kept their K at original clock if they get one...
    Then the one with the most impresive price augmentation is the most demanded... (yes 90% of the consumer are not like us :) )
     
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    Damn and i wanted to upgrade my set up soon... guess i'll wait for the 9700k or whatever it's called.
     

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    Well, our shops have all intel's 8000 series available at 5+ stock, means no shortage on EU stores/supply chain.
    And there are many 7000 chips too, including 35W T-series.

    So, there is huge surplus of 4C/4T i5-7400 (65W) 3.0~3.5GHz to point that that comes with 125 Euro games pack.
    And there is 4C/4T i3-8300 (62W) turboing to 3.7GHz with 2MB more cache and which is considerably cheaper.
    And in same price as i3-8300 there is 6C/12T Ryzen 2600 (65W) 3.4~3.9GHz.

    Apparently, intel can't control AMD's prices to get rid of old 7000 series. But there are plenty of people who would not even look at AMD. And just compare intel with intel.
    There is good chance that intel is playing nVidia's supply chain cleanup game.
     
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    Man being a PC enthusiast/gamer is getting more expensive by the day, first it was the RAM shortages driving prices up like crazy, then the GPU huge price hikes because of miners and now we have the CPU shortages!!!???

    What´s next, MB shortages? Or maybe the lack of CPU coolers... Good thing i bought my current system before all this crap but i´m already getting cold sweats just thinking about a future system...
     
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    Too late. Those were already reported for some mid-low AM4 boards due to demand in china.
     
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    8700K, Tray edition starts at 380EUR over here
     
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    8700k seems to be running low over here, not so much the other models yet. Like stores don't have them and can't say for sure when they will and in what kind of numbers. However, prices haven't yet jumped dramatically. Maybe some, I'm not sure since I'm not really interested in Greedy Blue CPUs at the moment. Prices are generally speaking all the time higher here than in most of the world, so perhaps the stores are slower to raise them further.
     

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    In my EU country 8700K is out of stock almost everywhere and prices start at 501€.

    I'm just wondering what this means for the new 9000 series pricing... if price increase will be the same for 9000 CPUs then they will be DOA.
     
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    Good I've found a 8086 with below 400e price few days ago...
     
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    alza.de - 425Euro. Or switch to country closer to you.
     
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    The nearest Microcenter to me has 10+ of all the 8k CPUs in stock (for the ones I checked). The 8400 is a little above MSRP but the others are at or below MSRP. The R7 2700X is $280.
     
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