Prices For Core i7-10700, 10700K and Core i9-10900 leak

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  1. JamesSneed

    JamesSneed Maha Guru

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    Most of the leaks point to around a 15% IPC increase and around a 20% or so performance uplift. The big change is AMD is said to be moving to 8-core CCX's which should eliminate the "single threaded" advantage on 8-core and smaller chips. I put single threaded in quotes because it is more of a latency advantage since Intel is using monolithic chips and AMD is using chiplets. Of course its all speculation but I personally wouldn't by these Intel CPU's at least until AMD has Zen3 shipping so we can see the comparison especially since we are talking like 5 months between releases.
     
  2. nosirrahx

    nosirrahx Master Guru

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    Monolithic is EOL (in the high core count space).

    Intel will be back with a killer product once they accept and adapt to this reality.

    This will be "Netburst (Intel) -> Athlon 64 X2 (AMD) -> Core (Intel)" all over again.
     
  3. Stryfex

    Stryfex Master Guru

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    I'm definitely waiting till both products are available (and reviewed by Hil here) before making a purchase...but waiting until 2021 is not an option for me (well...it is...but i'm very unhappy with my current performance and not wiling to suffer through it for another 18 months)
     
  4. Ssateneth

    Ssateneth Member Guru

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    3800x is $339 from retailers now, don't even need a rebate or coupon.
     

  5. tsunami231

    tsunami231 Ancient Guru

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    eh knock 50-100 off all those prices and maybe
     
  6. EspHack

    EspHack Ancient Guru

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    even if they were cheaper than AMD's offerings, the price of yet another intel motherboard makes sure i stay on AMD
     
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    If you don't like it, don't buy it. I can't see the problem :p
     
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    It is not hard to decrypt what power draw is at base clock under full load:
    Core i7-10700 (8 cores / 16 threads, 2.9 GHz to 4.8 GHz): $506 CAD = $364 USD => 65W @2,9GHz.
    Core i7-10700K (8 cores / 16 threads, 3.8 GHz to 5.1 GHz): $585 CAD = $419 USD => 125W @ 3,8GHz.

    3900X does 3,6GHz with PBO limit of 71W while fully loaded ~54°C. (Ryzen Master's lowest PPT. Lower values work via BIOS.)
    3900X does 3,9GHz with PBO limit of 95W while fully loaded ~65°C.
    Manually setting 4GHz (fixed stable voltage) for all cores results in around ~86W under full load ~62°C.
    (Ambient 24,5°C.)
     
  9. Mundosold

    Mundosold Master Guru

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    Honestly the pricing isn't that bad and I'm not an Intel fan (I'm a fan of whoever has price/performance). Intel still has the lead in low core gaming performance, which is still relevant if you play any cpu-bound MMOs (which there are a lot of). The 10700K will probably have the best gaming performance of any chip out there for now.
    The problem is that you have to buy a new mobo, AMD has an advantage there since B450 is still a good cheap option.
    Do I expect Zen3 to beat these in all scenarios? Sure. But that is still likely 6 months away if it isn't delayed. And if Intel cuts prices again by then they can still compete on price performance. A 10700K won't be irrelevant in gaming for a very very long time.
     
  10. Dazz

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    Of course they will, Intel have had Jim Keller on the project for over 2 years, he designs kick ass processors and is in high demand. Not even Intel can buy him out, they have tried many times. Funny thing is he keeps designing processors that competes with his own designs, he will be back to AMD soon enough LOL.
     

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    Ah yes,finally a solution for AMD.
     

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  12. kakiharaFRS

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    as a 9900k owner..I don't see the point of 10 cores, that serie of cpu is so bottlenecked by their lanes that you have cores but nothing else, want to use M.2 hmmm you'll need to sacrifice SATA ports, want to use 16x graphic card ? hmm that's all the cpu lanes you had so that's a problem etc...it makes more sens to get a 8 or even 4 cores with the highest clock you can get for pure high fps gaming
     
  13. BLEH!

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    Fanboys will still buy them.
     
  14. nizzen

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    This is how I run my Ryzen 3900x. I don't do stock or underclock :p

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    I must be a fanboy, because using a 3900x :D
    PS: I'm still going to buy 10900k with Asus z490 Apex, just for benchmarking and maybe some Battlefield V :p

    *Performance fanboy*
     
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  15. ViperAnaf

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    I love how all the peasants are raging...
     

  16. Fox2232

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    At 1,35V mine does 4,6GHz on half of cores and 4,5GHz on other half. Not really worth it for gaming or productivity.
    Gaming gains are minimal, and I really do not need to run CPU in very power inefficient way for productivity.

    Intel really has problem if this was true. Because for important power targets (65W+ for desktop) AMD does better. And it is expected that those CPUs from AMD and intel released around same time will increase AMD's power efficiency lead.
     
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