Preview: AMD Radeon RX 6800 (XT) and 6900 XT graphics cards

Nvidia tax, premium leather jackets don´t come cheap you know...

 

Maybe your card was simply defective. Sounds like it.

 

Not sure if that's true. Nvidia still has value-add advantage and people are sucked into that. My cousin, whose a youngin, is shopping for a new GPU now and I told him to just get a 6800XT when it launches and he said no.. because he needs Nvidia Freestyle.. lol

Then you have other tech like DLSS, RTX Voice, Nvidia's encoder (although RDNA2 might bring improvements here), etc.

 

That's exactly same thing. Decade in debt, and moment they are starting to do well, everyone expects them to move back to red numbers so they can have cheaper products.
If we do not reward innovation, there is not going to be much of it.

 

I doubt that. Even Gamers Nexus says they have a list of replicable bugs with RX5000 series and that was during latest video discussing RX6000.

 

I had a bunch of issues with a RX 5700XT, I would get black screens, driver crashes and so on very randomly. RMA'd it and they said it was defective and refunded me. Because I'd had it for a while and lived with the issues - I wasn't using it much - I could get the Red Devil 5700XT for just 15€ over the refund. (the guy I quoted also referred to something that was quite a lot older than a 5000 series)

Yes, there have been a bunch of issues with the cards and the drivers - undeniably - But I wonder how many of the things that people blame on bad drivers are caused by defective hardware. My only issue with this card now is the sometimes lack of detecting my primary monitor's resolution from a cold boot. Turning the monitor on and off fixes it, but a little annoying. Other than that, it just seems to work, with no issues like crashing, artifacts, poor performance or anything like that.

 

Don't know why everybody is mooning over RT right now? Implementation in games looks total crap! Water looks like glass, shadows sometimes too dark to even see on screen properly and you get -40% performance hit... yeey take my money- NOT!
Unless the raytracing is at that point when the entire game like Crysis III can be pathtraced like Quake II (25 year old game at measly 35fps in 4K LOOOOL), then the RT is worth it.
Right now if developers could use UnrealEngine 5 to full potential with screen spaced reflections and shadows etc with 8K texture packs- it would blow us away graphically. Just look at their tech demos in Youtube, have You seen a game that actually uses that graphic engine potential? No, neither have I.
Right now all the games that use raytracing in some way, look like crap and not lifelike. At this point raytracing is like a pig with a lipstick put on...
First games should start to look as best as they can.. then throw some nice to have raytracing on it!

Right now I could not care less of this so called raytracing on shadows and reflections. This can be done with rasterization to the level of same looking with better performance.

Some people here are saying the AMD cards are too expensive... I sure hope so that you were saying the same thing then when Nvidia Ampere cards pricing was announced otherwise you look stupid.
Some saying that 6800 is too expensive with 579$ msrp... really ?
In comparsion the 3070 looks even more expenisve!
6800 is 8% faster on average than 3070 (2080Ti) offering +8GB more ram (8 GB vs 16GB). And this is the AMD "FE" model.

999 msrp for 3090 performance and saving +500 bucks!
With that 500 bucks saved, you basically can get new Ryzen 9 5900X at some point or buy new console!

All those game and boost clocks were artificially very low (2250mhz), so AMD would look good on paper. Same as Nvidia did with their Ampere FE models.

Already AIB's have reported monstrous clock speeds on their AMD 6000 series. Avereage is between 2.4 -2,55Ghz. Ofcourse they will go over AMD's rated 250w and 300W TBP ratings, but they will be most likely 350-370W range and far from 3080 and 3090 400-450W ranges! lol

So in conclusion. AMD just gave a technical knockout to Nvidia, but the countdown from 1-10 is at 5 now, let's see if Nvidia can get themselves off their ass and respond with something better than current lineup. If not ... AMD wins by jury votes.

 

Dont know if it is was posted here:

More confirmed DirectX 12 Ultimate games: Dirt 5, World of Warcraft: Shadowlands, Godfall, Far Cry 6, and The Riftbreaker.They will use DXR 1.1 and VRS Tier 2.
https://www.amd.com/en/technologies/directx12#FEATURED-GAMES-

 

I look forward to benchmarks and the (presumably, eventually forthcoming) 6700XT.

 

But why would they pay production costs unless they are buying as a producer lets not forget this is Retail I used to work in quarrying at one point, so folks would buy 20 tons of gravel crushed for 500 and split them into smaller units and price accordingly nobody pays production or indeed Factory ex stock prices because nobody would make any Money!
Am sure if you asked to buy 100,000 units from AMD etc you would get a better rate but you would then need to distribute, market stock and service your customers, your talking one end of the chain to the oither and you expect it for free? pff

 

I hope you was like that when Turing had its launch. Because those GPUs had fewer transistors on less dense process and had cheaper VRAM too.
Prices nVidia sold Turing from start till end (even while AMD already was on 7nm) were objectively much worse than prices nVidia and AMD have now.

Maybe you can focus on cellphones for a while and persuade each manufacturer to actually reduce prices. I am sure those small chips are rather cheap to make, and screens are nothing special too...

 

Same for me from a 3800x and 1080Ti.

 

Most people don't give a rat's ass about RTRT (real time ray-tracing) in its current state today.
Hardware today is too slow to do full-frame RT on modern quality games (Quake 2 RT doesn't count!), and will continue to be like that for at least 2-3 more generations.

By the time RTRT becomes common in every game released (like using pixel and geometry shaders is now), this Big Navi or Ampere will be long dead in the history bin...


What I want now is cheap enough 4K-capable raster rendering in modern game engines, or 1440p 144Hz for smooth "good enough" quality gaming.
These cards deliver that (as well as Ampere, of course), and that's all I need or care about.

Unless nVidia miraculously releases in 1-2 months a 12 or 16 GB card that is cheaper and faster than RX 6800XT, switching to AMD this round.

 

I mean he's been arguing this entire thread that everything has been overpriced for 15 years, so yeah.

But with Turing, you're ignoring the fact that Nvidia potentially paid for FFN and the cost associated with investing in RT + everything else super early.

I don't think you don't need full frame RT for it to be useful.

 

I dont play any RTX titles, for the last 12 months its been Far Cry (from 2 to Primal), COH2 and DCS Flight Sim, all at 4k. a 6900 will do me just fine and a worthy successor to my 1080Ti

 

Anything i cant afford is overpriced ha ha ha, thats how many people view these things, so dont buy, market forces. Its simples to me, buy what you can afford, or not afford ha ha

 

From overclock.net forum
Tested with Intel 10900k-5.1|4.8
2x16gb 4400c18
RTX3080 nerfed to 320w limit with max temp 68c rads nerfed to 200rpm.. pump nerfed also to lowest d5
windows on a typical bs background nonsense.. armoury crate, steam, afterburner, etc etc etc so no optimized windows here...



Source
https://www.overclock.net/threads/official-nvidia-rtx-3080-owners-club.1753932/page-97

 

Idk, I'm not going to trust AMDs numbers but I'm also not going to trust some random forum guys numbers either. Need to just wait for actual benchmarks from reputable sources where you know the platforms both were tested on are identical. Not going to know for sure until then.

 

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-is-working-on-ai-powered-supersampling-nvidia-dlss-alternative

 

Cant recall where I saw or read it but apparently the AMD test results for the 6800xt were not done with SAM enabled. The 6900xt results (vs the 3090) did have SAM enabled. So with Intel, AMD, SAM or not, the 6800xt still looks good.