PNY GeForce RTX 2080 and 2080 Ti Product Data Sheet Leaks - Reveals All

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  1. Venix

    Venix Ancient Guru

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    What are you guys smoking 670 is faster than the 1050 non ti! And 770 trading blows with the 1050ti! Winning slightly till you factor in the consumptio where the 1050's destroy em!
     
  2. Noisiv

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    RTX hw has rapid packed math 2. In fact it goes deeper than Vega, scaling all the way to INT4.
    And it can execute INT and FLOAT operations in parallel, independently of each other.
    Plenty of new tricks in RTX, and Nvidia is not yet marketing all of them.



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    I see you conveniently avoided quoting the words in question. Nobody said "slower".
     
  4. IceVip

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    I guess i should sell my gtx 1080 and grab a 780 ti because it has a few more cores..
     

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    Grab a GTX 280. Its got a massive 512bit bus. :D
     
  6. airbud7

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    or trade a quad core 7700k for a bulldozer 8 core! ....:D
     
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  7. wavetrex

    wavetrex Maha Guru

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    That is an incorrect comparison, because between 1080 and 780 Ti there's a massive clock difference:
    780 Ti Base: 876, Boost: 928 with 2880 "cores", let's say 2.67 M "performance points" (Boost)
    1080 Base: 1607, Boost: 1733 with 2560 "cores", hat results in 4.43 M of the same points. Plus 1080 boosts higher than that in many games (to 1900 or more), so 4.86 M points.

    That is assuming those cores are perfectly identical, 1080 still 82% faster.

    Everything that happened in NVidia GPU performance in the last 3 gens (including the new one, Turing) is much higher clock speeds as the result of 14nm, and also stuffing more of those cores because of the same 14nm.
    There's very little or no increase in IPC, as these cores are really simple floating point calculation units, and they are already at their best.
    It's very unlikely that anything can be done to improve IPC further, so all future GPU's using the same "array of floats multiplication" principle will just have more and more calculation cores and theoretically higher clock once moving to improved processes (7nm, 5nm...)

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    Back to present day... well, Turing does not seem to have higher clock speeds. Actually, it might even clock lower than Pascal. And here lies the problem. Shader (or core) count is only 15% higher, clock difference is NIL. No amount of architecture tricks will make it faster, all the "low hanging fruit" have been picked already.
     
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  8. IceVip

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    There's always that one guy that doesn't get it, thanks for the info anyways.
     
  9. airbud7

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    I'm sure he was joking wavetrex
     
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  11. wavetrex

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    Obviously.

    @Texter thanks for that link. Good info... and yea, 1080 Ti is an absolute beast. Remains to be seen if 2080 manages to beat it, and if yes, by how much (But I doubt it, numbers don't support that assumption)
     
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    I think you missed the "inflation adjusted" part of the title along with the 2017 date on the side.

    On that note, the 2080 seems to be positionned between the 1080 and 8800 GTX on that graph if rumors are correct.

    But, guys, please, don't forget that while GDDR6 is cheaper and easier to produce than HBM2, it is still more expensive to produce than GDDR5 hence the cost increase. A lot of people seem to forget about this.

    I am personally excited to see the bench of these new cards.
     
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    People using those graphs also try really hard to ignore that most of the x80s ever since Kepler weren't exactly prime silicon or actual top end chips and nVidia started inventing their own insane little price points in all of their markets ever since. Let's just leave it at that.
     
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    Regardless of your point.....nVidia is still faster.

    When people are very willing to pay exorbitant prices for your product you will always come out ahead....101.
     
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    Because the die size is irrelevant to anything that has come before. There are now RT and Tensor cores as well as the CUDA cores on this new chip. People took issue with AMD because of the performance vs. heat issues, I wasn't aware that "die size" was ever an issue...
     

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    @airbud7: yeah but even nVidia were surprised by Titan's success, often selling them by the couple at $1k a piece...2080Ti should be interesting to behold though. 1080Ti's often hitting CPU limitations already. Turing desperately needs next-gen features that kill Pascal performance.
     
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    Oh yea agree....many old Titan owners got Ti's now. price was crazy, heck it still is.
     
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    @Pimpiklem
    complaining about a product that hasnt been released, you havent seen perform, with games not yet written.

    lol, ok.
     
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    Reading your guys posts cracks me up, Hell iam still on a 900 series 980 to be exact I see no need to upgrade unless your doing 4k max settings. But also iam 41 and my gaming days are now like once a week ( down from 24/7) my daughter took over my position lol.
    As far as performance goes I saw you guys comparing gtx 1080 from What i saw a 1080 is 2x the performance of a gtx 980 so i might just get a used 1080 when my rysen build is finished. 1080ti would be super-sweet for me!

    2080 needs to be at least 25%-35% faster then 1080, ti version 40%-50% in my humble opinion. Later gurus. Nz.
     
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    Oh I almost forgot....Nvidia=Fps! These guys are a Monster Giant company they dont even need to try to sell products if they fart people will flock to come and get a smell, yes when you corner the market like that and have no compition thats what happens!

    I wish i was the ceo,sigh! Lol.
     

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