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PNY GeForce RTX 2080 and 2080 Ti Product Data Sheet Leaks - Reveals All

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  1. Hilbert Hagedoorn

    Hilbert Hagedoorn Don Vito Corleone Staff Member

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    Nice, cuda core count is massive for the Ti.

    Is this a reveal/paper launch on Monday or will there be reviews also? Everything seems good to go.
     
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    Nothing easier than saying "no" to a $1000 Ti card, and I won't pay Ti money for a non Ti card either. Holy crap what a ripoff these things are, lol. My 1080Ti gonna last a long time I think.
     
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    The performance difference between a 2080 and 2080 Ti is probably going to be at least 40 percent. That is a pretty substantial jump. The 2080 specs are rather mediocre. I don't see any point in buying one. I am just going to get a 2080 Ti when prices eventually drop some. It looks like the RTX 2070 is actually not using the TU104 core either. It is using the TU106 core, and the GTX 2060 will be using the TU116 core. Nvidia appears to have decided once again to use a lower end part for each sku. This is just like what happened with the GTX 680 all over again.

    Edit: AMD needs to get their act together and come out with some high end offerings. Nvidia is probably going to be charging 1000 US for an RTX 2080 Ti. These outrageous prices need to stop.
     
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    Heh it would actually be pretty amazing now if all of this wasn't real. Benchmarks incoming lol
     
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    If this is true, the 2080Ti looks to be the only card actually worth buying. They're going to price gouge this into oblivion. We'll see where we are come spring. I have more important things to waste money on.
     
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    Unless you bought a 1080ti at launch and you are already bored of it, no reason to upgrade.

    Take people like me sitting on 700 series because the 900 wasn t cool enough and the 1000 series went super up in prices. I ll pay 999$ for a new card rather than a similar price for an overpriced 1080ti ( considering that in normal days you could buy the top tier considerably cheaper at this point )
     
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    Problem i see is that if you dont buy right of the bat the Miners will cause the prices to rise and it will be a long long time before you can get one at a decent price.
     
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    Even then depends what card you had before hand... if the other rumours are true the 2080 is actually weaker than a 1080ti, and the 2080ti is set to only be around 30-45% stronger, which would make it the weakest TI to TI jump we have ever had. Which only just makes me think the 2080ti is actually the 2080 and the 2080 is a 2070... if not then Turning is set to be small minor jumps rather than the big long ones we are used too
     
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    Since when has nvidia ever released a XX80 model right alongside a XX80Ti? It’s most likely gonna be RTX 2080 and RTX Titan. Titans are usually around a 1000 bucks so this would make more sense. A RTX 2080Ti would most likely come 6 months later at around 750 bucks
     
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    I think the bolded is almost certain. Nvidia has no competition and if the cards are going to bring all that new stuff then Nvidia is going to charge a nice chunk for it... Prepare the wallets guys because this is going to hurt...
     
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    What other rumors? The 2080 will NOT be weaker than a 1080ti, there is no historical precedence. AdoredTV (who seems to have a sold inside source), and the first on the internet to let us know of the RTX2080, mentioned that the 2080 should be around 8% stronger than the 1080ti. That in itself is very disappointing. May not be accurate, who knows, but it will NOT be weaker than last gens Ti. That would be a monumental failure on Nvidias part and they would get eaten alive by review sites. Secondly, they will have an uphill battle trying to peddle this 'junk hardware' to gamers at the 'rumored' high prices.

    Pls people, use some common sense when tossing out these so-called 'rumors'. I dont even think they are rumors, just silly forums chatter here and there.
     
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    Sounds like I will keep my 670 still. The prices for the 1080 Ti's were at the limit of what I would pay, but the performance wasn't quite what I wanted for a completely new rig anyway. Now the performance may be there, but at what cost? The dollar has become so expensive that looking at the dollar prices doesn't really say much. Just over the summer it went up over 10%. Unless I get significantly increased performance in the same price range (adjusted for normal inflation, which isn't much) as the previous generation there's no way I'm buying anything new. Alternatively it's also silly to spend the same amount as the last time and probably just get the same performance, give or take a few percent.
     
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    Now the x80 is $800 and the Ti is $1000. Really ??

    In just 3 generations we moved from $500 high-end mainstream and $700 for elite "Ti" to the new amazing prices.
    What's next ? $1000 for 3080 and $1500 for Ti version?

    And I thought I paid way too much on my 1080... before the mining frenzy. Keeping it until it breaks.
     
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    Real ray trace will destroy last generation performance, this will be the real difference, I think...
     

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    Lol dude... even a 1050 is faster than your 670... any of the new gpu's will be a MASSIVE upgrade over a 670...
     
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    Except that no current games in existence is doing ray trace, and it will be a while until we see new games based on it.

    And of course, I doubt game makers are going to alienate 30% of their potential buyer base by making a game that requires a ray-tracing Nvidia card to run, so it will probably be just an "add-on" option, not part of their main visual pipeline.

    As for performance difference, this particular leak is a bit worrying:

    2944 CUDA cores for 2080 vs 2560 last gen 1080, that's exactly 15% more. And boost clock... well, here's the weird part: Only 1710 Mhz!! Pretty much unchanged from last gen "1733", and all things being fairly equal, it will probably go to 1900-2000 just like 1080.

    So the new card just 15% faster ???
    If that is true, they are going to gave a tough time selling these, especially at the inflated prices !

    Not really as massive if you think that the previous one already had 3584!
    4352 / 3584 = 21.4% more, which is nice, but assuming similar clocks (which this leak suggests), that's roughly the difference in performance that you will see.
    What's worse, is that with the diminishing returns, this kind of performance increase will only be visible at very high-res gaming, namely Ultrawide 1440p and UHD (2160p).

    Somehow I have the feeling that the "new mainstream" (2560x1440) resolution will only see between 10 to 15% increase, depending on the game. That's not exactly a good generational jump ...
     
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    LOL? A 670 is barely capable of playing any games released in the last few years. Good luck with that. Even a 960 has better performance than a 670. "t's also silly to spend the same amount as the last time and probably just get the same performance" - wtf are you smoking? You would see something like a 300% performance increase with 10series.....not to mention these new cards.
    Are you running a Dual - Core Celeron with that 670?
     
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    Darren Hodgson Ancient Guru

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    The RTX 2080 will be aimed at existing GTX 1080 owners and the RTX 2080 Ti at existing GTX 1080 Ti owners based on those alleged specs. I doubt any GTX 1080 Ti owner would be daft enough to buy an RTX 2080 as they'd be losing not only 3 GB of VRAM but also overall bandwidth due to the drop from 352-bits to 256-bits.

    I am very happy with my GTX 1080 Ti and it works superbly with my 165 Hz 2560x1440 which I bought because I prefer maxed out settings and high refresh rates over compromised settings at 4K. Hell, I haven't even upgraded my 1080p Sony Bravia HDTV yet as there is not enough content to justify forking out for a 4K TV, especially with all the confusion over HDR specs (cheaper 4K TVs do not support HDR properly for example). Even my PS4 Pro and Xbox One X fail to deliver native 4K for every game, although the Xbox One X does at least have an Ultra HD Blu ray player (which oddly plays 4K movies on a 1080p TV which is a nice bonus).

    Anyway, the only graphics card that interests me is the RTX 2080 Ti but if is going to cost £850-£900 then it would certainly not be an impulse buy. That is a lot of money to pay for something that only last two years and I would rather put it toward that 4K TV that I am going to buy eventually once the technology stabilises and the higher end features such as local area dimming and OLED filter into the lower end market.

    NVIDIA seem to ramp up the prices of their high-end cards by £80 each generation of new cards... I paid £423 for a GTX 680 back in May 2012, £561 for a GTX 780 in May 2013 (a rip-off on reflection), £482 for a GTX 980 in September 2014, £560 for a GTX 980 Ti in June 2015 (my first Ti card and at a decent price when you think about it) and then £600 for an EVGA GTX 1080 FTW in June 2016. Then NVIDIA released the GTX 1080 Ti but rather than it being £600 with the price of the other cards adjusting downward accordingly, NVIDIA released it at over £700! I paid €810 for mine direct from EVGA in April last year, which from memory worked out at around £690-£700. This was actually cheaper that what Scan and the like were selling the cards for (I think they were around £750 on many sites for custom models) but it was still £140 more than what the GTX 980 Ti cost.

    I have no doubt that NVIDIA will take advantage of the complete lack of competition from AMD and release these new cards at even higher prices. I expect the GTX 2080 Ti to be at least £820 here in the UK and likely higher since early adopters always end up paying more due to the cards selling out quickly.
     
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    I didn't forget what they did to "Batman Arkham Asylum", blocking anti-aliasing to AMD and crippling the PhysX performance on their own cards with a chart artificially... so I can expect anything from them.

    To me, the biggest surprise could be seen them playing fair with their own costumers, because they already proved they can make good cuality produtcs (and sometimes can "troll" the whole industry)
     
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