please help me to choose

Discussion in 'Processors and motherboards Intel' started by culichor, May 24, 2005.

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wich one will be better choice?

  1. INTEL P4 660 3.6GHZ 64BIT 2MB 800MHZ FSB LGA775 HT

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  2. Intel Pentium 4 EXTREME EDITION 3.40 GHz NEW CPU

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  1. culichor

    culichor Guest

    wich one is better
    Intel Pentium 4 EXTREME EDITION 3.40 GHz NEW CPU or

    INTEL P4 660 3.6GHZ 64BIT 2MB 800MHZ FSB LGA775 HT CPU

    money is not an issue.
    Thank for your help.
     
  2. adair_fett

    adair_fett Banned

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    Well, speaking from experience, the Extreme Editions are very very very fast.

    I dunno about the new 64bit Intel chips though.

    I vote extreme edition, based on personal experience.
     
  3. desdick

    desdick Master Guru

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    The new 3.73GHz EE is 64-bit. I suppose the 3.4 is also 64bit??
     
  4. culichor

    culichor Guest


    No, the 3.4 EE. is not 64 bit.
     

  5. Must Kill Ati

    Must Kill Ati Master Guru

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    64 bit is the answer for the future
     
  6. IGNITE

    IGNITE Guest

    the EE isnt socket 478, right??

    If it is, then forget it, even if it wasnt 478, but rather 775 you should still buy the 64 bit 660. It outporformes the EE, its feature rich(Ive seen this chip Overcloced to extreme speeds). AND ITS 64 BIT, meaning your ready for future applications. Only the 3.73 EE 32 bit is on par with the 3.6 660 64bit and thats the socket 775 3.73EE.

    You should specify in your poll what socket it is and what FSB it is 800 or 1066?. If the 3.4 EE is 478, I hope the ppl that voted for it change their vote(somehow LOL)
     
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  7. G L

    G L Don Juan

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    Well, here's some benchmarks:

    http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/pentium4-6xx_12.html

    I believe the 3.46 isn't the prescott core, so no x86-64. If money is truly not an issue, then I suppose the 3.73 EE is everything the 660 is but with an extra 133 MHz and 1066 FSB, and tends to win over the 3.46 EE, though not by as much as you would think. Oh wait a sec, none on pricewatch, so scrap that! So I guess I'd have to say 660, as it has 64-bit and is a much better buy anyway.

    Though I'd seriously consider a FX...
     
  8. Numinous

    Numinous Master Guru

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    Honestly what you want is a 64 bit processor and a 2MB cache but with dual cores. Dont buy anything until the dual core CPUs hit the market.
     
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  9. G L

    G L Don Juan

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    It may be awhile before there is a dual-core 3.6 GHz processor... right now Intel is only annoucing up to 3.2 GHz (840), including the EE. So unless you do some serious multitasking or run multithreaded apps, you would probably get a bit worse performance.
     
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    G L Don Juan

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  11. Liranan

    Liranan Ancient Guru

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    If money's not an issue then get an Asus A8n Deluxe, an FX 55 and a nice vid card (if you're not satisfied with the one you've got). I don't see the point in buying Intel untill the Yonah's come out or their equivalent desktop version because their thermal output is really incredible, the coolers are like the P3 ones but with a CPU running 2.5 times the speed of the P3. Other than that get AMD or wait for the X2.
     
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  13. G L

    G L Don Juan

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    A 660, you sure on that? A 660 with 1000 FSB would be, let's see... 4.5 GHz, which I think would be just enough to melt the motherboard. Though I'm actually wondering what 6xxs can do with decent cooling, I know 4.0 GHz is no problem, not sure what the limit is.
     
  14. Liranan

    Liranan Ancient Guru

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    I read somewhere that the limit of the 6xx series lies around the 7GHz. The limit of the San Diego's seems to lie at about 4GHz. The P4 at 7 is faster than the A64 at 4 simply because of it's high speed.

    When I find the links I'll post them.
     
  15. G L

    G L Don Juan

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    You're talking liquid nitrogen, I presume? I'm more concerned with non sub-ambient on this one... I think most people will not do better then simple watercooling for awhile...
     

  16. Liranan

    Liranan Ancient Guru

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    Not allowed to post to triple cascade? Damned... no links then ;) .

    But you're right, most people don't even have H2O. I had to custom build mine and it's utter ****e. At this moment the room temperature has got to be above 25 and it's night, during the day it's got to be 35+. At idle my CPU is already between 45 and 50 and then at full load it's like 60-70. But I can't turn the airconditioning on because our little Pomerainian is ill and the cold will make it worse so I'm screwed with a CPU that throttles all the time. I'm going to change the radiator and get a heater core if I can, also I'm going to see if I can do something about my cooling because this is disastrous!! :( Yet it's better than stock cooling and concidering there is no such thing as H20 in a radius of 500km (if not more) from where I live I think I've done quite well.
     
  17. nutyo

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    scrap em both, if money is no issue, wait a bit and get an FX-57. it will out perform them both in almost everything but encoding.
     
  18. Nasgul

    Nasgul Master Guru

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    I'd say get the 3.6 w/EIST, EDB and SSE3, based on my experience with the 6 series. They run cooler than you'd think, they're great at overclocking and still run cooler.

    Here is a screen shot of my Pentium 4 650 3.4GHZ @ 4.2GHZ on a Zalman CNPS 7000 all copper and AS5: http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y218/Nasgul/650SPI.png. I must say though, I like to run it at stock voltages only, so 4.0GHZ is, idles at 31c-33c and it only gets up to 51c under full load. BTW, during super pi @ 4.2GHZ, 50c was the highest temp.

    660 @ 235x18=4.2GHZ easy, on pure air (Zalman CNPS 7000 all pure copper and Artic Silver 5). Like mine 236x17=4.0GHZ (http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y218/Nasgul/ABC.png)

    You still have the option to OC the EE but it's not an EM64T, does not have SSE3, EIST and Execute Disable Bit. Will the L3 cache help? hhmmm....don't know that one. Either way, at stock or overclock, the 660 is a great performer.
     
  19. G L

    G L Don Juan

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    Yeah, you can make your own EE just by buying a 630 for $200 and running it with a 1066 FSB, would be about 4 GHz, which is pretty much guaranteed.
     
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    thepure907 Master Guru

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    ive heard the extreme processors are very fast too, i would go with that but i dont know much about hte 64 bit ones.
     

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