Photos of Flagship GeForce RTX 3090 Ampere Surface

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  1. DannyD

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    A non-overclocked aftermarker 3080 would be fine on 650w platinum superflower thoughts?
    coupled with 10700k @5.2 lol
     
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    Everything is still only rumors at this stage. Just wait for Hilberts review.
     
  3. DannyD

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    i'm worried about only 8gb versions available of 3070 at launch, it's pushing me towards 10gb 3080.
    Mid-october is my time frame, around six weeks.
    Can't wait for guru3d review waw!
     
  4. Astyanax

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    I'm saying they won't supply it.

    Adapting 4xPCIE 8pin to this will be a shortcircuit and fire hazard on low quality multirail psu's.


    You aren't combining 2 6 pins, you're connecting the equivalent of 4 8 pins. its a 600w connector, the 2 8pin jacks on the psu side output on 2*8+6(+2)=4 connectors.

    Nvidia is expecting these cards to have higher than ever before transient spikes, the connector is proof of it.
     
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  5. -Tj-

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    Lol what a fail.

    Why would it need so much power, fermi gtx 480 deluxe so it is.
     
  6. Fediuld

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    Dont buy then. The 12pin connector is not the same as 2x8pins nor 3x8pins. Is the equivelent of 4x8pins to supply 600W. That is why is custom per PSU because different PSUs have different wiring inside the box. Someone with multirail would just burn his system if goes to do so without explicitly the PSU manufacturer states where each cable goes. Other PSUs would required 3x8pin and not 2x8pin as per Seasonic. Also what if someone tries to use the daisychain 2x8pins from single cable and the PSU tries to pull 400W? Things will burn.
     
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    Because Nvidia to beat AMD goes down the Intel route. Add more electricity and use huge monolithic chips which is basically Maxwel 3.0 (Pascal) with RT & Tensor cores strapped on them.

    While AMD has new arc year after year now. RDNA2 is completely different than RDNA1 which is completely different than GCN!!!!
    And RDNA3 is again a new arc with huge changes over RDNA2 including MCM and IF3
     
  8. Denial

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    This is a massive oversimplification of Nvidia's architecture. You're ignoring sweeping changes to the SM (separate INT/FP paths), tons of changes to the scheduler, cache, etc.

    Anandtech on Volta (Turing):

    That's not to mention that Hopper (architecture after Ampere) is also rumored for MCM.

    I also like how you say the RT/Tensors are just "Strapped on". As if there isn't a ton of work to integrate them lol.. "RDNA1 is just GCN with more transistors strapped on"
     
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  9. Mufflore

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    I didnt ask a question.
     
  10. Fox2232

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    No, 12pin has 6x +12V and 6x GND. That's actually equal to 2x 8pin as 8pin has 3x +12V and rest are GND/sense. And with many PSUs, it is actually equivalent to 2x 6pin as 6Pin officially uses 2x +12V + Sense on middle yellow which is mostly full +12V anyway and 3x GND.
    Cables are actually overrated for those currents. Main weak point comes from contacts on connectors themselves. And contacts on 12pin are physically not looking any better than those on 6pin/8pin.

    Then there comes fact that PSUs today (outside of trash) have one +12V rail. That means as long as cable can deliver given current, you can pull everything through just one +12V and one GND wire. That's why PSU cables have one set of wires from PSU towards card where it splits into 2x 8pin. As wires are not problem, connectors are.
     
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    Makes sense. If any of the pins is not making optimal contact, the connector can overheat and melt the plastic around it.
     
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    This child speaks the truth, hear him out brothers and sisters.
     
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    Which might be changing in ratio, with INT being half of FP in Consumer Ampere to repurpose the die area for more FP32 units.
     
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    :)) i guess using two of them makes the CPU optional with the room left :D
     
  15. XenthorX

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    Say hi

    TW = Taiwan/TSMC ?

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  16. Mufflore

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    The white writing looks overlaid, doesnt have the same look as the rest of the image.
     
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    Think it's legit, Hilbert made an article about it since then. the soruce was deemed reliable ? Who knows at this point really.
     
  18. Astyanax

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    its definitely printed onto the die.
     

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