PC Gamers GTX 280 review, and its barely faster than the 3870 X2

Discussion in 'Videocards - NVIDIA GeForce' started by Rich_Guy, Jun 13, 2008.

  1. MaxBlade

    MaxBlade Master Guru

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    Its the price like some have said. For this ATI does not have to be king of the hill. The price will put ATI there.
     
  2. D-Cyph3r

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    Um, how many people do you think will be shopping at the uber-high end? It's all well and good having the fastest GPU, but when 90% of people cant afford it, your gonna lose out.

    Just look at high popular the 8800GT and 3850 were, THAT is the sweet spot for the market buddy, where general consumers (not just overclocking/watercooling/benchmarking hardware enthusiasts) can all have a slice.
     
  3. snip3r_3

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    8800GTX/Ultra > 2x 7900s , > 2X 1950s , > 7950GX2

    GTX 280 > 9800GX2 , > 3870X2 , > 2X 8800GTX

    Same pattern, perhaps
    Price of the 280 would be the same as ultras?
    ...

    Isn't that why there is a 260? Also these are HIGH-END cards, they are labeled that for a reason. Premium cards = premium price, always.

    5950Ultra, 6800Ultra, 7900GTX, 8800Ultra, etc
    Were they all that great over their cheaper parts? (5900, 6800GT, 7900/50GT, 8800GTX?) Anything spectacular that overclocking/modding can't do?

    When did the 8800GT come out? Anyone? When did the GTX come out?


    Basically, Nvidia is just being Nvidia, it has delivered a product that has correct performance for a next generation product. It has not failed, it just continued their old marketing model.
     
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  4. D-Cyph3r

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    Thats what i'm getting at, while alot of us (the overclocking/watercooling/benchmarking crows I mentioned above) will be buying these high end GPU's we still only constitute to a small percentage of all GPU sales, most are in the mid-range segment, where nVidia wont have a competitive *NEW* GPU (the 9800GT and existing 8800's will still probably do well). The GTX260 will still be above the price range of the 4850/70.... unless nVidia get scared.
     

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    When did the 8800GT come out? Anyone? When did the GTX come out?





    October 29, 2007.
     
  6. cowie

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    well you know that nvidia has to do something with the lower binned cores pcb and memories gt 200,240 later?
    plus you know that they will shrink this 280 card down,and cheap fab may push the price down even further due to compitetion not to forget cooler and faster but let me not get ahead of my self
     
  7. A M D BugBear

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    yup I would wait to see how both cards is going to perform. My money is probably on the 4870X2 however thats a dual gpu while the gtx 280 is a single gpu however.

    I am going to wait. If its the same or lil better then what I got, 2 sli 8800gtx's then I am going to hold off until they release a die shrinked, revamped version of it, and price. going to go wait and see how both cards peform, actually 4 cards.
     
  8. snip3r_3

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    Always been like this xD
    You don't see more people with 8800GTX/Ultras than GTS/GT's right?

    For the extra boost in power, you have to pay your way up, hence, 260->280 = same thing has a GTX -> Ultra , GX2 -> GTX280

    Is it worth that small performance increase? It depends on you (and wallet).

    GTX was released way earlier than the GT (date you typed, i suppose) so maybe half a year or so after the release of GTX280, what do you get? Midrange cards, GS/GT/GTS, etc.

    Time most of us upgrade is when the midrange rolls out or when high-end cards drop in price :)
     
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    The 8800gtx was fast. The 280 is not screaming past everyone now. The 8800gtx offered something over the 7900. This time its not the same. There is nothing out there that a 8800gtx or 3870x2 cant play. If some want to pay $600 whatever price and think they now have the best. Go for it. This time ..well just like with the 9800. Its not worth it.
     
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    Exactly... personally, i donĀ“t like the benchmarkcards... the really important are the games!!
     

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    1) Um, yes it's still a failure. That's like saying Hitler wasn't bad because a few people support him. Bad, good, expensive, cheap - these are all classed by the response of the general market...not a small minority. It's pretty clear so far from general opinion on various forums that the GTX280 is a total disappointment in terms of performance/price - and that makes it a disappointment in general. The card has potential, but not at this price range and not with the current crop of games (maybe in a few months it'll shine better, but at that stage more cards will be out anyway).

    2) The 8800GTX stomped the competition far better then the GTX280 seems to be doing going from that review. The 7950GX2 is infinitely slower then the 8800GTX - whereas the equivalent 9800GX2 is on par in some instances here.
     
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    PCSuperstore is selling it @ $640.36! I guess they did not get the message. Maybe they'll get the message Monday:)
     
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    o GeForce GTX 280 - $649
    o GeForce GTX 260 - $399

    The embargo time for the GeForce GTX 280 and GeForce GTX 260 is on Monday, June 16th, at 6:00 a.m. PDT. The GeForce GTX 280 will be available in quantity on Tuesday, June 17th, 2008. The GeForce GTX 260 will be available the following week on Thursday, June 26th, 2008.

    http://en.expreview.com/2008/06/13/g...cially-priced/

    These are the official prices, the ones posted above are just estimates.

    Ow and yeah, NV was pretty well these last 2 years, but these GTX 280 benches suck arse. Complete dissapointment, all ATI for me if these are true.
     

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    Agreed, through and through. :puke2:
     
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    Seconded, some people on these forums have very unrealistic lifestyles. I have a well paying job myself (According to someone that posted prior, only jobless people think about price to performance ratios. While people who do work can and will buy the top end of the market. It's a suprising level of idiocy), I also have responsibilities. I cannot and will not shat out money for a card that is simply not anything special. If people have the money to throw away on minor increases, then all the power to them.

    If there was a major "leap" in performance it would be tempting. I'm not personally one to throw coin away.
     
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    Couldnt be bothered to read through all that, but if u think about it, if one Gcard is better than one dual card i think that is pretty good tbh.
     
  19. GARRET

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    Just read Darkest's post. It summarizes what we've been talkin about in those 3 pages.
     
  20. OrionRU

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    I wouldn't call a 2x increase in performance a minor increase :)
     

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