[PAY for SOLUTION]Games feels unsmooth, stutter and slow

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  1. venhyor

    venhyor Active Member

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    Hi guys,

    I have and and weird problem thats shortly described on title. When I play games (CS 1.6, LoL, CS:GO), I feel that everything is a bit slowed or unresponsive or some kind of input lag (my movements, shooting, hitreg). When I look for PRO stream gameplay they have their games running so smooth and fast. Im not only one who feels this, there are several people who had same problem. I think performance for me is not problem, cuz I have stable high fps (250-300) in games. I did most known tweaks for performance or FPS boost but I still cant figure out what causing this problem.

    Things done:
    My DPC latency tweaked (10-20uS)
    power managements on win and BIOS (EIST, C states, etc..)
    Windows Services (Search, Defender, Indexing, ...)
    Updated drivers
    Network tweaks
    USB polling rates
    USB power saving
    Clean fresh Windows instal
    BIOS updated

    My rig:
    i5 4460
    MSI B85 G43
    MSI GTX 960
    8GB Kingston


    I would pay for guy dat solve my problem...
     
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  2. venhyor

    venhyor Active Member

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  3. exacelt

    exacelt Member Guru

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    A few ideas.
    1. Make sure Vsync is disabled.
    2. Make sure you adjust mouse sensitivity.
    3. Make sure GPU Buffering is set to 1 in games. (Also check NVIDIA control panel, and set it to 1)
    4. [Most likely], try not using a mouse pad. Try using a different mouse pad, and try different mice.

    Good luck~
     
  4. venhyor

    venhyor Active Member

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    1) vsync off? kappa :D ofc done yet
    2) what to adjust? 6/11 win, MarkC mouseaccel fix. Definetly not problem here
    3) Buffers? I dont know where is this setting. If u mean Prerendered frames, its set to 1
    4) Already tried.. no point there

    Anyway thanks for your reply :)
     

  5. vase

    vase Ancient Guru

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    set fps_max to 200 or even lower @ console. (144, 120)
    then you get rid of the mouselag. FPS is fast enough
     
  6. puredorian

    puredorian Master Guru

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    Make sure to revert for lowest bios version available for your mb
     
  7. nhlkoho

    nhlkoho Ancient Guru

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    Yes limit your FPS. 250-300 is high but a drop from 300 to 250 is quite significant. Best to limit it to 200 where you get no drops at all.
     
  8. venhyor

    venhyor Active Member

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    10 version backward? What? I dont wanna totaly break my PC since on some updates I saw they include memory compatibility lists. So when I downgrade bios to 2013 version its possible to stop support my current CPU or mems.

    Any reason for this step pls? Explain where could be problem
     
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    Trying to play 60/120fps, but it has nothing to do with input lag and slow movements
     
  10. Agent-A01

    Agent-A01 Ancient Guru

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    lol Ignore that suggestion.
     

  11. puredorian

    puredorian Master Guru

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    Reason why I suggested it, is because I know for a fact from my own expirience early versions can be much more stable that later.
    MSI 970a-G46 have stutters on anything above 2.2 versions of bios, at least on my hardware.

    You should see if your MB out of the box support your peripherals, and then proceed to downgrade BIOS. Maybe not 10 versions older immidiatly, but step by step, seeing if it gets any better.

    Some people think it's some kind of ciritcal step or very risky. Guess they have no idea about how it works. If you're know what you're doing, you're fine. Shouldn't hurt anyway, you can always revert from old to new and vice-versa
     
  12. venhyor

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    There are potential reasons why do that: manufacturers including new bull**** powersaving technologies and other stuff which maybe doesnt work well for gaming.

    But when I do that and my CPU or RAM is not supported on the oldest version, then I cant boot my PC and flash back to newer version without correct CPU.
     
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    Is it possible to flash from bios which doesnt support my CPU successfully? U dont need CPU for failsafe flash bios FW? I heard some stories with new PCs where u should first get supported CPU, flash bios and then use newer CPU.
     
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    CalculuS Ancient Guru

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    If the bios revision you want to downgrade to doesn't support your CPU you'll be essentially bricking your motherboard unless you have a different cpu.
     
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    Exactly what I told about.. ty for approve
     

  16. venhyor

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    Just downgrade 3 version backward where my CPU first time get support, doesnt help. Anyway ty for help
     
  17. ElectronSpider

    ElectronSpider Master Guru

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    I know some will say to leave the prerendered frames on 1 for all games, but prerendered frames at higher rates does make the frame-by-frame transition feel smoother (for AC games I set prerendered frames to 6). Although, I do not notice any input lag with higher prerendered frames.

    You might experiment with CPU Affinity as well. Try changing the affinity of the game exe to use only 2 cores using the task manager or replacement such as process hacker, then test. Then, try different number of cpu cores to see if the program has a multi-threading issue. For example, in the game Need For Speed: Hot Pursuit (2010), it had a multi-threading issue were in order to correct stutter you had to disable the first core (core 0), click OK, then re-enable the first core (core 0), although credit goes to PCGamingWiki for the tip with this game.

    PS: If this helped there is no charge, this is a free user-to-user forum to help and discuss in-depth technology topics with fellow PC enthusiasts.
     
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    try a different monitor if you can... I had to over clock mine as i had tons of stutter and jitter.
     

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