Patriotism

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  1. Palerider

    Palerider Ancient Guru

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    By definition, it's being proud of your country, so PLEASE no bashing or politics........

    As an American, Patriotism is part of our identity.There are many holidays, events, and songs that celebrate our history and love of country.
    Just wondering what day makes you proud to be "_________" and why.What significance does that day hold, and what makes you proud?



    Two things for me....
    D Day.I know it was a Multinational event, but it marked the US involvement in Europe.I had family involved, and there is Palerider blood on two Norman beaches.

    The Marine Corps hymn.I was Army,but 98% enlisted Marine.It's a story I've told, so I won't get into it again- but every time I hear the Hymn, I tear up with pride.

    I don't hear a lot of BIG days for England, but I know you have national pride.Same goes for everyone, I assume.What makes your country special?
     
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    lol, no bashing or politics? Seriously Pale? You think anyone here's capable of that? Come on.
     
  3. Palerider

    Palerider Ancient Guru

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    I used to be one of the biggest political debaters on this board.Just ask NM+ :D

    If I can do it, anyone can!
     
  4. aircool

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    You dont hear about big days for England?

    Its a bit like why we dont hear about your big days (I guess you call big days what we'd either national holidays, festivities and traditions).

    Theres quite few but I can only presume they are not as played as yours.
     

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    What day makes me proud to be a finn? Rofl, I don't really know. It's not a date that makes me feel that way.
     
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    Patriotism is a part of the american life? You must not live in america.
     
  7. Palerider

    Palerider Ancient Guru

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    Well many of our days have to do with our split from England.I presume they're not as popular there :D
    I know world history...when I say I don't hear about specific day, I mean they're not as publicized here.

    Just trying to do a pride thread, and give people a chance to sound off about what makes them happy.
     
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    You said patriotism is pride. Which is one of the deadly sins.

    I find it funny that USA, one of the most religious, christian countries are filled with pride the most ;)
     
  9. aircool

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    Oddly one of my headteachers (Pricipal to you) was obssessed with independence day and college/school would celebrate it.

    You dont really hear about it generally over this way.

    Can't think of any worth celebrating, the main ones now-a-days are people remotely related to the Royal Family getting on TV and getting a free day off :p

    Unless Cornwall gets independence :D
     
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    Independence day celebration is pretty much the exact opposite here in Finland than in the USA. More like deep respect, quiet day. We would never celebrate it the same way Americans do (which is way over the top if you ask me). Nay for fireworks and stuff like that.

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    Das Lied der Deutschen makes me 25% proud.
     
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    in makes no difference what country your from ,if you love your country and support its values your still a Patriot,i am not particularly proud of England or the Uk as a whole but considering the finanacial mess the country is in we still manage to find millions of pounds to give to other countries
     
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    ^pride or patriotism is ok.
    but i dont like that people tie their patriotism or pride with the countrie's financial situation, military power etc.

    like what the op said, should be far from politics, because its a love for culture and traditions IMO.
     
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    wow really? run out of ideas for a new thread?
     
  14. Palerider

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    Yeah.I planned on asking your permission first, but I threw caution to the wind and started a different topic anyway.Now that I know you don't approve,I hope you will just delete the entire thread.That, or don't post in it if the discussion doesn't interest you.Your choice :moon:
     
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    i dont rly identify myself with any country, but do take pride in ancient persian history.
     

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    Dahzeal33 Ancient Guru

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    The days themselves are cool, but I have a deep respect when I see my dad, who was in the AF during Vietnam. I also had 1 grandpa in WWII and 1 in the Korean war; both Army.

    I'm proud to know that I'll be in the Navy very soon, and upholding the same ideals they had, regardless of how things are now. I think those holidays will come to mean much more then.

    I don't knock anyone for NOT feeling a huge amount of patriotism either, because up till recently I didn't really have much. In fact, I had a huge negative outlook on things until (like a naive retard) I asked my dad if he was still proud of what he fought for and he explained that YES, he'd still die for his country, because of what America is supposed to stand for.
     
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    The below is written about war but I don't feel it's relevancy is confined to that. It can apply to all sorts of patriotism.
    I believe we see far too much of the latter these days and is generally why the term "patriotism" leaves a bad taste in many people's mouths. I think the inherent problem with patriotism is that to be truly patriotic you need to have a deep understanding of politics, history, and have a complete picture of current events and the issues surrounding them. Most people don't and therefore I feel their patriotism is misguided.
     
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    Lol

    10 lols
     
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    I prefer to put my patriotism on things not related to wars.
     
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    Interesting topic. Please dont take me literally on this as am only giving ideas.

    It's a double edged sword to me and one i feel is somewhat ironic. You feel patriotic and you fight for your country. But was it worth it?

    That a historical discussion. There's 2 much blind patriotism and idiotic patriotism for me.

    Like booing other people national anthems. Or is that patriotism related or just twits :)

    A lot of people will be patriotic not really knowing what it is they are being patriotic for....

    I think patriotism is a slippery slope and as long as you are good for your fellow man and community we shouldnt need it. I just dont think its as simple today as saying god bless america and getting your bags backed for war...well i think we need to move on from this way of thinking.

    It's no good being a patriot unless you know your history.

    Patriotism can lead to supremism and a form of racism which i dont like.
     
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