NVIDIA will suspend all operations in Russia and relocate its staff.

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  1. Hilbert Hagedoorn

    Hilbert Hagedoorn Don Vito Corleone Staff Member

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    The only question I have, is why has it taken so long.
     
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    Money. It would have cost them a lot to take quick and decisive action. Nvidia isn't the only company still dragging this out naively expecting things will go back to "normal". It won't.
     
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    Russia was one of the top mining countries. No wonder they stayed so long.
     
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    There are a whole lot of complications involved. As this article said, Nvidia appreciates its Russian workers' skills enough to be ready to ship them out of Russia to work elsewhere, so it must be true Nvidia didn't want to close the office immediately back then, by simply firing all the workers. On the other hand, Russia has done all it can to make it hard for many foreign companies to leave. It was the worst for any foreign companies with significant investments in Russia because leaving immediately meant, in practice, donating all of their possessions in Russia to some Russian company owned by one of Putin's billionaire friends. If the foreign company took its time, it was at least possible to make the Russians pay a little bit for the stuff. Transferring any production tools out of Russia is forbidden, surprise, surprise. In fact Russia likes to stop many professionals from leaving as well. In Nvidia's case, it's hard to say about the material costs. Did they have a supercomputer in Russia? I hope not. Whatever they had, there's a high risk of it ending up in Russian hands, to benefit the Russian government and military, unless destroyed. The Russian government would no doubt love to have all the Nvidia employees with technological know-how.

    Of course Nvidia is greedy beyond measure, but leaving Russia now isn't so simple either.
     
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    Other companies did this in matter of days, they relocated their workers and closed the offices in Russia, sadly for greedy nvidiot it took almost 8 months to wake up
     
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    Horus-Anhur Ancient Guru

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    Mostly greed and complete lack of morals.
    It's reminiscent of IBM selling hardware to Nazi Germany, until the USA entered WW2.
     
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    Not only them: Ford also have a dark history there, my grandpa were in camp and hated american because you had less chance to survive in Ford factory than in BMW that were owned by real nazi in this time (btw he survived to both, and to red army too).
    Money make people close their eyes :(
     
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    There are plenty of Western companies still in Russia. Sure, some left very quickly, some didn't. Some smaller ones might have gone bankrupt if they had just abandoned everything in Russia just like that. Some companies actually have long contracts/license agreements in Russia, making things more complicated if those deals can't be honoured by operating mostly from the outside.

    To be honest, I was also surprised Nvidia took this long, but it's indeed another sign of their bottomless greed. It's hard to imagine what exactly would have forced Nvidia to stay there, unlike a company that, for example, had a real factory in Russia. When such a company leaves, that factory would fall into Russian (government controlled) hands with all the machines inside. It could be used to produce equipment for the Russian military afterwars, if suitable for the purpose. I imagine the Nvidia employees in Russia were doing nothing but computer work and customer support. I guess there's a remote possibility the Russian government told Nvidia that the leadership of Nvidia Russia would be imprisoned if Nvidia was in a hurry to leave, but greed seems like a more plausible answer.

    I'm from Finland, so I've read a bunch of stories about the struggle companies may face when leaving Russia. I'm not especially sympathetic, but it's understandable, especially for the small businesses, which may have bet a whole lot in it. The worst part are the (short-term) victories for the new Russian owners. Getting a modern factory with tens of millions of equipment practically for free is no different from legalised highway robbery.
     
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    Ford is much worse than IBM.
    With IBM, it was just a matter greed above morals. But Ford was an open Nazi supporter. He published a journal spreading antisemitic Nazi ideology, in the USA.
    And he idolized Hitler, so much, he had a painting of him in his office.
     
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    You know your company is a cesspit when McDonalds has the moral high ground. lol
     
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    Nvidia acting like they actually care.
    All they did was stay long as possible to ride mining wave in Russia.
     
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    To be an idiot is very different from being s Nazi. Ford was a Nazi, not an idiot.
     
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    ETH has transitioned to PoS and NVIDIA quits Russia. How convenient :)
     
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    Nobody would complain about any of this if Nvidia GPU's were cheaper.
     
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    Takes time to set up back channels. Don't believe for a single second NVidia or AMD going to lose the Russian market.
     
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    they had location in russia
     
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    they were supporting economically the employee, the production or anything related to product imports was already halt.
     
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