Discussion in 'Frontpage news' started by Hilbert Hagedoorn, Dec 9, 2017.
Ampere is the next gen gaming cards. Likely Volta based without the tensor cores.
Very interesting ! I also found on reddit this guy : https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/7iq5tk/just_got_a_titan_v_this_morning_ask_me_to/
40% extra was very much heard off, and at the same price point as the previous top card. Nvidia is raising the price point every generation, and all the dim bulbs find it normal. The only good thing is that this will most likely be the last big consumer GPU they make.
Yes you can. The original Titan was a similar card. All Vega cards also work with all of their professional hardware enabled.
1) You can get a glimpse of gaming performance but you should NOT compare the price of a workstation or high-end AI compute card with tons of tensor cores and say anything yet about the 1180 (or whatever the name will be) except that it's slightly likely to be more expensive than the previous price point simply because they have little effective competition and because it's a new architecture.
2) You cannot hate Nvidia for pushing the boundaries of cutting edge technology (AI) because ultimately that is the future and there's a lot of $ to be made. Yes, gaming is still in their hearts too, I presume, so we should expect a decently configured and performing gaming version... eventually.
3) It's definitely not easy to deliver such significant performance gains WITH lower clocks AND increased power efficiency. We should be somewhat grateful for the fact that Nvidia is developing new tech that doesn't suck and that actually does deliver.
Anyone know yet what HW video decoding formats these new volta GPUs can handle?
What's to be confused about? 30% faster for a GV100 is disappointing. If people start saying 30% faster is "amazing" then we've really hit a terrible era in GPU development. We used to get 50-100% more performance from architecture changes.
If we get a cut down GV102 and it's about 20% faster...where does that leave the GV104? 10%? If so then I'll skip Volta entirely as it won't be worth $800 for 10% more performance. I'm pretty sure the GV104 will cost $800 at launch and the Ti, when it does drop in 2019 will cost $1000.
I think Ampere will be the gaming version of Volta as well. We'll never get Volta for gaming. Ampere will cut out all tensor cores, add about a 500-1000 cuda cores, and much faster GDDR6 memory, and more of it than 12GBs. I expect 16GB minimum for a GV102 Ti card. 12GB will probably for the GV104 since it's mid-end.
I can't see it adding any Cuda cores, if anything, it will probably have even less. There is no way NVIDIA is selling gamers that much hardware this gen, for extra CUDA cores it will require a larger die, and I can't see them going over ~650mm2
Then it's not going to be a worthwhile upgrade for 1080 Ti owners. I'll just skip Volta.
You certainly do not know what it is and what professional cards are when you call it "a money grab from rich fanboys".
Clearly you’re lacking technical understanding. This is a compute card with tensor cores that are tied to main clock speed hence GV100 is underclocked vs pascal gaming chips.
The gaming version will have higher clock speeds and no fp64 or tensor cores included.
A gv102 will be exactly that. Ampere is pure speculation, core architecture will still be Volta.
All of this is common sense so sounds like you’re deliberately acting dumb
People said the same thing for Vega and it performed about the same.
Volta is disappointing. There’s no way around that.
Now you're just trolling.
Like vega has anything to do with Volta.
That hole you're digging is getting bigger and bigger lol.
Boring. Everyone bashes tech companies nowadays. Are you better/smarter than Jen-Hsun Huang? He does his job right. None of us here could take his place and work. Show some respect and admire their work. If you don't like, build your corporation and throw Nvidia/AMD off the competition.
Volta is great, no, it's huge. Gaming wise you couldn't except all this kind of billions transistors help towards to it. It is a professional chip. Nvidia already put TITAN away from GTX series at the drivers section. Enjoy life and wait for x80 to criticize this gen. It will not be another fiasco like VEGA FE vs VEGA 64.
Lol hole I’m digging? You can dig one in your wallet if you want and drop $3k for a non gamer card. This is just an early adopter tax for the rich. I’ll wait for the 2080 Ti to cast final judgement on if it’s worth my money or not coming from a 1080 Ti.
I’m not saying Volta is a failure, but I was expecting a lot more from a new architecture and die shrink. It just seems that gaming is on the back burner for NVIDIA since they have no competition, and since they’re focusing on AI. I fully expect a refresh of Volta until AMD gets their affairs in order and release Navi. That’ll be a while though...
And no, i don’t think I could do better as I’m not a company of millions of employee worth billions. They’re in the business to make money in the end of the day, like Intel, so expect a decrease in innovation until they have competition. Do you think Intel would have released an 18 core if AMD had not released a 16 core processor? No. We’d still be at 10 cores. It’s the same with NVIDIA right now. They’re going to cut the chips and make money off it until something better comes out, then they’ll release the full chip with high clocks. It’s business 101.
It's not a die shrink, it's a optimized variant of 16nmFF. Also it's running at nearly double perf/w compared to Pascal.. I don't really understand how anyone can say that's disappointing.
This card was clearly launched because they had a number of failed GV100's where they lost a stack of HBM2. Like the previous Titan will most likely be the best selling deep learning card. It's expensive but it's offering up to 3.7x the performance for the same power consumption as the previous GP102 Titan.
This isn't a gaming variant of a card.
Seriously you're either trolling/being deliberately stupid or have a reading comprehension.
This card is for professional work and is much cheaper than the last tesla while doing the same workloads.
Though the "someone" would no doubt be Hilbert, I too (if it is possible) would be interested in this comparison.
I’m not trolling nor am I playing dumb. I’ve stated I know this isn’t geared towards gamers.
Since when did it become a crime to be disappointed in new tech?