NVIDIA releases some RTX 2080 performance numbers and some info on DLSS

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  1. Hilbert Hagedoorn

    Hilbert Hagedoorn Don Vito Corleone Staff Member

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    So here in Germany the NVIDIA editors day just ended. The media has been briefed on the latest tech. While most of this all is still under embargo, there are some things we can share. First off, after the announcements last Monday, a lot of people have been curious about the actual 'normal' game perf increases over last gen.

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  2. EL1TE

    EL1TE Master Guru

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    Interesting, this is the standard RTX2080.

    I guess i can finally play at Ultrawide 1440p with 100FPS easy with a 2080Ti, sadly i don't think i'll be buying one, too expensive. I wonder if with 7nm the 2080Ti (or a refresh) will use 200W instead of 250W :)
     
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    ivan Active Member

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    Ok, now Im starting to believe a little.
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    warezme Master Guru

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    Glad I pre-ordered the Ti now. I have a 4K monitor but not a great one only capable of 60Hrtz so I was happy with just being able to hit 60FPS. Also I would have been impressed anyways since I'm coming from an old GTX970. I'm excited to see how my HTC Vive works with the new card and trying to boost the resolution on some of the games that struggled with the old 970.
     

  5. OrdinaryOregano

    OrdinaryOregano Master Guru

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    Oh my, now that's interesting...
     
  6. wavetrex

    wavetrex Maha Guru

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    I'll start believing when 3rd party reviews are starting to pop up with tests and benchmarks done by themselves in their own computers.
    Especially one from Hilbert.

    ... oh wait, that's not believing, it's measuring. Also known as "science".
     
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  7. warezme

    warezme Master Guru

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    At best it's benchmark measuring since to be considered science all reviewers would need the same consistent platforms and conditions to truly prove something is what it is purported to be. Every reviewers system will be different and their takes will also be different so nothing really scientific about.
     
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    OrdinaryOregano Master Guru

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    @Hilbert Hagedoorn Can you please expand on "DLSS is not game specific, and in the future should work on most game titles."

    Was it enabled outside of the game's own settings? I mean to ask, how have you determined that it's not game specific, it's AI based so I imagine it needs to be trained on ground truth?

    Thanks.
     
  9. -Tj-

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    So tiny bit faster then 1080ti.. that said 2070 will be between 1080 and 1080ti. Maybe near 1080ti if OCed to max.
     
  10. fantaskarsef

    fantaskarsef Ancient Guru

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    So... even without RTX rendering... even without DLSS... none of the mentioned games in that bar diagram show below 30% performance gain...

    :eek:
     
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    cowie Ancient Guru

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    ok now we can talk something after the officail nv x better slides.
    1080ti performance around?
    well tbh it would be less stupid of me to buy a 20ti then when I got a og titan and that other titan for games and 1k+ price tag
    been rolling on a 750ti far too long just hoping its a fun card to mod
     
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  12. nevcairiel

    nevcairiel Master Guru

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    Those DLSS numbers are amazing (if true). I was hoping that it would be so much faster then ordinary AA methods, and it looks to be quite the case.

    Gains in that magnitude should also motivate a lot of developers to support DLSS, so that should be good.
     
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    fantaskarsef Ancient Guru

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    If you're going to mod that's something I'd like to see!
     
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    Solfaur Ancient Guru

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    While I'm taking that chart with a grain of salt, I'm looking forward to see DLSS way more than ray tracing.
     
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    nevcairiel Master Guru

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    In the presentation it was said that the algorithm needs to be trained for the specific games, so developers can submit it to NVIDIA for training on their super computer, and then basically just enable it once the data is available. Sounds to me like it sort-of is game specific, but perhaps easy to use.
     
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    So tensor cores are not a quadro exclusive? we get them too?

    I understand the bump, basically you disable AA from game setting and free shader resources, and you get it back from the tensor core, on top of it.
     
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  17. nevcairiel

    nevcairiel Master Guru

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    Yes, Tensor Cores are a key component of the RTX framework, so they'll be available at least on the 2070, 2080 and 2080Ti as well.
     
  18. OrdinaryOregano

    OrdinaryOregano Master Guru

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    Thank you.

    On an unrelated note, are you the same Nevcairiel of LAV Filters?
     
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    So, there is certain heavy level of TAA in this scenario to guarantee performance gain for 2080 cards which do TAA faster. And then they replaced TAA with DLSS for 2080 which delivers close to same results as not running AA at all.

    So 2 questions remain:
    Hows does run that 1080 w/o TAA? How does run that 1080 w/ DLSS? Because on one of those comparison images floating over web, DLSS runs quite faster on Pascal than TAA.
    So theoretically 1080 with DLSS does around same as 2080 with TAA.
     
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    tsunami231 Ancient Guru

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    meh so 2070/ti is gona have good chance of running 4k@60fps current games? vs 1070ti, not sure how i feel about this, I just installed Deus EX MD and put everything on very high @ 1080p and as far as i can tell it can do 60fps, i know 4k it can not
     
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