Also feel free to post about your issues ideas and w/e comes to mind. Drivers worse than ever!? -Micro stutter -Game slow down with good frame rates -Poor fps over previous drivers -Alternate Frame Rendering only? What happened to using Split Frame Rendering? -Enabling SLI wreaks havoc on my desktop icons, is slow to enable / disable and sometimes will completely disable secondary display adapter. -Some driver versions lack support for some monitors completely, as in you can not fix to have them enabled at all -Drivers have removed the basic refresh rates for CRT's (meaning you have to setup a custom profile, enable DMT, and then set refresh rate, save profile only for it to disable the profile you just made, and you must go back, try and enable it again, and pray it shows up to select it from the basic screen resolution page) -Display settings in windows has caused some very frustrating driver problems. For example, I clicked on advanced settings button, windows pauses............ , display goes black, I hear the sound for new hardware being installed, pause......, then a few min later it plays the sound of hardware being disconnected then reconnected and so on... I had to hard boot, restart, no display. The only way to get my displays back was to uninstall the driver in safe mode, restart, go back into safe mode, do a driver cleaner (for some reason there driver cleaner will not remove the proper entries).... then, go to install the latest driver in normal mode, only to have it finish the install with red rail road tracks across the screen..... wtf.. srsly? Restart, go into safe mode, and do it all over again. The second time it installed okay. This is by far not the first time things of this nature have happened with the nvidia drivers, nor will it be the last I'm sure, as it seems to me nvidia could care less (or so it seems from the people I have talked to on the phone and on the forums or lack thereof on the forums...) So, after being a hard core nvidia fan for the past 10 years, I am sorry to say, but you have forced me to see red. Not once, not twice, but 14 times now I have purchased ATI Graphics cards because, and only because, your drivers are not even sub-par IMHO. That's 14 sales lost to you nvidia! And I'm sorry but i just cant recommend a friend, or even a customer, to pay more and get less. I would love to hear back from anyone at nvidia but I highly doubt it, as you have shamelessly ignored other posts from me. And from what I have read on other forums, you have actually BANNED! people for complaining about your poor drivers and non existent customer support! What gives? You hate taking my money? lol I mean honestly, I don't know how you haven't gotten a far worse reputation by the review sites out there. Why? Because at the end of the day, I want to sit down at my computer and play a game with a smooth, enjoyable frame rate. So, I could give a **** less if I can get 130fps. It makes no difference, if the game is slow, jerky, stuttery, w/e its no fun! And, I do not want to have to work on problems with my video drivers when I get done with work! So, for the past 2 years I have noticed that ATI cards are more power efficient, cheaper, and result in same if not better than IQ, and better, smoother game play. So what is my incentive to buy green? (heh, how ironic green team is the most wasteful team around lol for power, for money, and for great game play) But seriously, I love my nvidia cards!! But I can't buy a product that is nothing but headaches for me with no support what so ever... (on that note, I wish you all could have heard some of the tech support I have had setting up my htpc from ATI it was seriously above and beyond. I was floored! at how much they wanted to know what, and why I was having issues, and how they could help immediately, and how they can improve there next driver release!) Now just think, I am only one person with very simple video setups and I do not use all the utilities these cards are made to do. So, I can only imagine the problems that occur to others who are trying to utilize more of the features these cards have. Thus, I believe I am only seeing the tip of the iceberg of what is really going on out there.