NVIDIA on Tomb Raider performance issues

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  1. Penal Stingray

    Penal Stingray Banned

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    Looks like NVidia beat ati in market share back in 2006 Nvidia 29 percent vs Ati's 21 percent and the good thing is NVidia still gets to carry its same old name ;) unlike ati its dead its amd now lol I kinda feel bad for ati.

    http://blogs.barrons.com/techtrader...-market-shares-gain-vs-ati-in-graphics-chips/

    according to Passmark Direct Compute benchmark Titan is the top dog not the 7970 also gtx 680 falls behind by a small margin and killed Fermi in performance lol

    http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/directCompute.html

    Titan 4557
    7970 3015
    680 2896
    580 1812

    and also this review is dated march 5 using optimized crysis 3 driver from NVidia even a 670 beats a 7970 where talking about a the most demanding games that requires horsepower on ur gpu lol, now the funny thing is the 680 minimum frame rates dips im guessing there must be a boost clock bug. sometimes 680 would not boost.

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    link: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/crysis-3-performance-benchmark-gaming,3451-6.html
     
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  2. PinguX

    PinguX Maha Guru

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    An £800 card beats a £300 card, very impressive huh ?
     
  3. -Tj-

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  4. sykozis

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    Crystal Dynamics is a subsidiary of Square Enix.... and TressFX is still not an AMD exclusive, so what was the point of your cut/paste from AMD's website?

    Kepler is "weak" at DirectCompute and OpenCL because NVidia wants both to fail in favor of their Cuda. NVidia doesn't support Open source unless it benefits them financially....which OpenCL doesn't...or forced to support them. NVidia doesn't want to support DirectCompute because it competes with Cuda....

    I find Passmark graphs to be comical...

    And exactly why does AMD need an "answer" for the GTX Titan? In case you missed it, the world economy is still in bad shape. Price will be a bigger motivator than performance for the vast majority of buyers. You seem to forget that enthusiasts make up a very small portion of buyers....and the majority doesn't care about GTX Titan due to it's price.
     

  5. HeavyHemi

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    If you read the article...TressFX was developed by AMD and Crystal Dynamics.
    You moved the goal posts from your original claim of TressFX is SquareEnix's "tech".... Clearly co-developed with AMD and not exclusively SquareEnix.
    Clearly I was responding to what you posted and not some exclusive AMD claim you invented. Sheesh.
     
  6. Denial

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    You said AMD saved ATi from dying. When AMD purchased ATi, ATi was leading and not even close to dead. By the end of the year Nvidia swapped places thanks to the G80 which knocked everything out of the water.
     
  7. sykozis

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    I didn't invent ****, if you actually read what I posted. I've read 3 articles regarding TressFX, none of which mentioned Crystal Dynamics at all. All 3 articles stated that TressFX was a SquareEnix "tech" that was developed with assistance from AMD. Sorry I read articles and post based on information presented in those articles. I'll refrain from attempting to post what appears to be factual information (based on articles representing said information as factual) in the future and follow the process of posting only opinions and baseless assumptions like what has become so common here as of late....
     
  8. ViperXtreme

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    yeah, Kepler is generally weak in compute (specially when a GK104, a supposed to be midrange card is competing with high end), kinda like how the GeForce FX is weak in SM2.0 as they want to promote their own shader path (and somehow DX9 had 2 version back then a and b)
     
  9. sykozis

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    DirectX had 5 builds in total....
    DX9 {4.09.00.0900 (RC4)}
    DX9a {4.09.00.0901 (RC6)}
    DX9b {4.09.00.0902 (RC2)}
    DX9c {4.09.00.0903}, {4.09.00.0904}
     
  10. Veeshush

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    It's more like if something is posted without the 100% certainty of 100% fact or 100% every scenario then it's up for over analysis because a poster's choice of words in their commentary of the topic.

    I stand by it. Only SquareEnix would be so anal over a goddamn hair renderer.
     

  11. ViperXtreme

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    @sykozis: a for nVidia, b for ATi and c for SM3.0, the ol times :D
     
  12. sykozis

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    the "a", "b", and "c" appended to the version number had nothing to do with GPU vendors. They were added to represent the different builds within DX9...

    DirectX 9.0 - 4.09.00.0900 (RC4) - December 19, 2002
    DirectX 9.0a - 4.09.00.0901 (RC6) - March 26, 2003
    DirectX 9.0b - 4.09.00.0902 (RC2) - August 13, 2003
    DirectX 9.0c - 4.09.00.0903 - Windows XP SP2 exclusive
    DirectX 9.0c - 4.09.00.0904 (RC0) - August 4, 2004
    DirectX 9.0c - 4.09.00.0904 - Windows XP SP2, SP3*, Windows Server 2003 SP1 and Windows Server 2003 R2 - August 6, 2004 / April 21, 2008*

    The last 4 numbers in the sequence (090x) represent the build number. Adding a letter suffix was a common practice for MS that started with DirectX 2 and affected all but DX1, DX4 (never released), DX5, DX10.x and DX11.x
     
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  13. ViperXtreme

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    my bad, i was thinkin of Shader Model 2.0a (PS2.0a and VS2.0b) for nVidia and 2.0b (PS 2.0b) for ATi
     
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    My bad for responding to your questioning of what my point was. I guess snark passes for discussion and is common here as of late.
     
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    I delete my post.. speaking about titan is totally offtopic.
     
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    more than the half thread should be cut off, it's totally tiring and non-sense / off-topic.
     
  17. Foamy4

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    This sounds pretty bad, but Nvidia is hardly to blame. If they couldn't get the game code it's hard to optimize the drivers.
    While I wait for this game to hit the "great deal" section on steam, it'll hopefully get patched and the nvidia driver will also improve the performance. ;)
     
  18. mR Yellow

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    Lol, how many times do you think AMD got the latest game code?
    AMD never bitched.

    The fact that nVidia is making this big hoohaa shows that they're defending their piss poor Compute performance. STOP defending them.
    Be glad that they getting some bad press. Competition is good.

    Just wish PhysX would become open or die.
    nVdia IMO is just as much as a spin doctor compared to Apple.
     
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    -deleted- Ill just let the AMD fan boys go on spouting BS. whatever.
     
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  20. HeavyHemi

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    AMD has complained loudly in the past. Neither company has any special status. Both are engaged in a cut throat business with all the trappings that go along with that. re: AMD accuses former top employees of stealing over 100,000 documents
     

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