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NVIDIA Next-Gen Ampere GPUs to arrive in 2020 - based on Samsung 7nm EUV process

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  1. Hilbert Hagedoorn

    Hilbert Hagedoorn Don Vito Corleone Staff Member

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  2. Caesar

    Caesar Master Guru

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    Fingers crossed where 4K @ 60FPS with Ray-Tracing activated will finally be achieved?!..
    .....and 2020 can be a great year for the graphics market, where not only Nvidia will launch Ampere, but Intel also will enter the dedicated graphics market with its Xe line, and AMD will launch the second generation of Navi with Ray-Tracing by Hardware.

    Hail to consumers!

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    I will be more than happy if we can just do 4k 60fps with HDR in AAA games, and has HDMI 2.1 48Gbps port. Not concerned about RTX features as much.
     
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    Oh well, they're making sure there's no step up program from EVGA anymore :D
     

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    Well i have 1080 SLI from 2 years and i think it has more 2-3 yrs life.
     
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    Well, that's what I was expecting, so 2020 is likely gonna be my next GPU purchase, but you know what...only if it needs to be and my GTX 1070 isn't cutting it. My only reason to upgrade would be if I stop playing BF1 and progress onto a more modern competitive shooter where I'm still wanting 144fps+ (actually let's call it 177fps considering I'm running my monitor overclocked to 180Hz). Or I might get one to jump on the RTX bandwagon, but I'll see how that pans out in terms of it's visual impact on gaming - thing is I find it really difficult to get into classic single player games, it's too sedate and doesn't have the same excitement as multiplayer, and I'm thinking RTX at 144fps+ at 1080p might be a bit of a stretch for even this 7nm generation, at least if the game is gonna make full or significant use of RTX.
     
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    I expect the usual 20% generation gap.
     
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    yasamoka Ancient Guru

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    Between which two generations was there a 20% gap?
     
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    Dragam1337 Maha Guru

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    The increase between 480 and 580 was even less than 20%... but a 20% performance increase would be very disappointing. Imo anything less than a 40% performance increase would be very disappointing.
     
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    Probably nVidia's current Turing architecture isn't amenable to TSMC's 7nm production process--or else nVidia didn't want to wait for it--or a combination of the two. nVidia is only a year or so behind AMD in terms of 7nm GPU production--but a year in tech terms is quite a bit. Should be very interesting to see what RDNA brings to the table this year and next @ 7nm with NAVI, post the 7nm RV II. Will be interesting to see what a Samsung-fabbed discrete nVidia GPU looks like, though...!
     

  11. yasamoka

    yasamoka Ancient Guru

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    That wasn't a generational gap - that was basically a refresh. Both are Fermi.
     
  12. Dragam1337

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    I know, but you said generations, not architectures... and they are different gens, even if the 580 is a refresh. But speaking of new architectures, you are right that no new architecture has provided a 20% performance increase or less. The smallest increase is the 30% provided by Turing... which was also very disappointing.
     
  13. JamesSneed

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    So 2020 will be a fun year for GPU's. Will have big Navi, Nvidia's 7nm Ampere and Intels Xe. I think I will hold off replacing my GTX 1070 until I see how all this plays out in 2020.
     
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    Is a 2080ti 30% faster than a 1080ti? i may have misunderstood that.

    Anyhow even if is a 40% gap won't give us 4k 60fps raytraced.
    I just wanted to say, i do not expect so much more performance because is 7nm.
     
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    Any guessed on how much it will cost to make 21~24 Billion transistor GPU on 7nm EUV?
     
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    Not 20%, but less than 30% was the 1000-2000 switch. Which is absolutely poor.
     
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    A 3080 Ti at 700-800 US, and having at least a 70 percent improvement in performance over the 1080 Ti is all that will be acceptable for the top Ti card, IMO. This 1200-1300 dollar nonsense for only a 25 percent increase in performance needs to stop.
     
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    2 years ago this random post would've been a 60% post and fools like me would be responding to it laughing at your low standards.
     
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    *delete*
     
  20. JamesSneed

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    Raising prices because the next generation is faster also needs to stop. If this carried on for decades GPU's would be 20k each. However I think Nvidia knows darn well what they are doing look at this whole super thing. They priced everything up a tier cost wise on the 20xx generation to milk early adopters. Now AMD is coming out with Navi they are back filling the tiers with higher performance/lower cost cards but still leaving the top 2080ti ridiculously priced. Nvidia wants a card on every performance chart saying they are faster because if they have the fastest its proven people buy the lower end cards even when they aren't as good as the competition at that same price point.
     
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